SAC'D Vet Auction Commentary - Page 12

The Immortal Ramirez · June 8th, 2005, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Skippy the One Eyed Beagle

I went and looked at your roster to see if there was anyone I could trade for. I was figuring that I could probably get someone for cheap off of you.

You don't have a single player that I am interested in at the price they currently are at.

I am sure you will find some sucker out there who will take someone off your hands but it wont be me.
:muhaha

ouch! Frank, you are in a world of hurt if Skippy doesn't even want to trade with you. Come on, he's been caught trading with every living creature on this planet... if there's a deal even conceivable and many that aren't, Skippy will trade for it. With him turning you down, you might want to toss the towel in now!

keepers · June 8th, 2005, 09:03 AM

Alexander at 4000 is a decent price compared to what some other RBs have gone for.

randilover · June 8th, 2005, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Flaxwless

Well from what I gather from you statement you believe Westbrook is on the same tier as Ahman Green and he sold for 3000cbs. I won't mention that Ahman is several years older than Westbrook also.

Actually, I just mentioned McAllister b/c be seemed to make the point more. Green also has a dismantled OL to deal with, so I am not as high on him as Duce.

However, all that said, Green is a head above WB if for no other reason than he is the clear starter on that team. WB is tied up in RBBC coaching philosophy and not as durable therefore gets his touches limited by the coaches. Age does not have too much to do with it, Green has at least a few years left.

Preds · June 8th, 2005, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by keepers

Alexander at 4000 is a decent price compared to what some other RBs have gone for.

Not if the rumors are true and he ends up in Jacksonville :yuk

The Immortal Ramirez · June 8th, 2005, 03:14 PM

Man, three hours without a single bid.
Is everythong out of money (most likely) or simply afraid to bid in fear they may have hit to wrong auction and will save Frank from himself!

PS: Alexander in Jacksonville wouldn't be all that bad. DT about the same - up & coming QB - about same quality DT in the division (poor).

Preds · June 8th, 2005, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Immortal Ramirez

Man, three hours without a single bid.
Is everythong out of money (most likely) or simply afraid to bid in fear they may have hit to wrong auction and will save Frank from himself!

PS: Alexander in Jacksonville wouldn't be all that bad. DT about the same - up & coming QB - about same quality DT in the division (poor).

not the same offensive line - that's the big difference

also, the coaching sucks worse in Jax than it does in Seattle IMO, and I hate the Walrus

BTW, as for bids, nobody up at the moment is worth additional bids on my end, not even JP... 400 was the most I felt he was worth.

Flaxwless · June 8th, 2005, 03:48 PM

opcorn

Preds · June 8th, 2005, 03:51 PM

:yikes Frank (Bloodsuckers).

1500 on Chrissy Brown? With the 4 RB's you already have ranging from 2750 to 4000?

Are you nuts? You asking for cap hell. Won't this put you over the cap?

Flaxwless · June 8th, 2005, 03:55 PM

he's a starter... should get paid accordingly

Liquid Swords · June 8th, 2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaxwless

he's a starter... should get paid accordingly

i'll bail you out on this one

Preds · June 8th, 2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaxwless

he's a starter... should get paid accordingly

He's an iffy starter, with an injury history and an owner panning for Travis Henry.

The Immortal Ramirez · June 8th, 2005, 04:03 PM

Darn you, Randilover. I was hoping Smith would be missed because of the injury last year... rats

Preds · June 8th, 2005, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Immortal Ramirez

Darn you, Randilover. I was hoping Smith would be missed because of the injury last year... rats

:huh, this league is full of sharks, nobody has been missed thus far. I wouldn't count on it either.

Nittany Dodgers · June 8th, 2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds

:huh, this league is full of sharks, nobody has been missed thus far. I wouldn't count on it either.

Who's Steve Smith?

Nittany Dodgers · June 8th, 2005, 04:19 PM

Wow, Mike, and opening bid on Faulk of 1000. He's already overpaid.

June 8th, 2005, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

Wow, Mike, and opening bid on Faulk of 1000. He's already overpaid.

:GoodPost

my thoughts exactly.

Preds · June 8th, 2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

Wow, Mike, and opening bid on Faulk of 1000. He's already overpaid.

heh, your just :Stirspot

Burt the Butcher · June 8th, 2005, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds

heh, your just :Stirspot

Isn't that the EXACT smilie you put on the Faulk bid? You are THE expert at :StirspotAND

otkettle mr preds. :rockon

Preds · June 8th, 2005, 04:29 PM

Not bad :burt, you're learning... that's semi decent smack coming from such and OLD guy!

Preds · June 8th, 2005, 07:12 PM

Heh, the Bloodsuckers have now won a total of 10 players, and spent a whopping 95.25% of the cap in doing so!

Frank's currently spent $19,050, and has just 950 cb's to sign a minimum of 12 players, which isn't possible without a trade or cut.

Curious to see how this turns out... I'll wager Frank has to give up more than he gets, and that's not counting one of the RB's... I can see having to part with a RB and a high pick for a low pick, kinda like the Subzero / Grief deal with the 2 overpaid IDP's.

This should be fun to watch! So who's gonna bail the Bloodsuckers out? We know several of you need a RB... whose gonna step up to the plate?

opcorn

Flaxwless · June 8th, 2005, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds

Heh, the Bloodsuckers have now won a total of 10 players, and spent a whopping 95.25% of the cap in doing so!

Frank's currently spent $19,050, and has just 950 cb's to sign a minimum of 12 players, which isn't possible without a trade or cut.

Curious to see how this turns out... I'll wager Frank has to give up more than he gets, and that's not counting one of the RB's... I can see having to part with a RB and a high pick for a low pick, kinda like the Subzero / Grief deal with the 2 overpaid IDP's.

This should be fun to watch! So who's gonna bail the Bloodsuckers out? We know several of you need a RB... whose gonna step up to the plate?

opcorn

Bail?!

I know what I did and what I'm doing.

Mutts · June 8th, 2005, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds

Heh, the Bloodsuckers have now won a total of 10 players, and spent a whopping 95.25% of the cap in doing so!

Frank's currently spent $19,050, and has just 950 cb's to sign a minimum of 12 players, which isn't possible without a trade or cut.

Curious to see how this turns out... I'll wager Frank has to give up more than he gets, and that's not counting one of the RB's... I can see having to part with a RB and a high pick for a low pick, kinda like the Subzero / Grief deal with the 2 overpaid IDP's.

This should be fun to watch! So who's gonna bail the Bloodsuckers out? We know several of you need a RB... whose gonna step up to the plate?

opcorn

So can he really just sit on this all summer without suffering any penalty? If so, its not a bad strategy at all. Sit on 4 quality RBs, find out which one inevitably falls on hard times before the season starts, dump him and take the entire hard cap hit this year and fill out your team with late season acquisitions. You're going to get those guys cheap late in the summer, and there is bound to be players emerge in camp and such that are being overlooked now. You guarantee yourself a solid RB core, and that will give you a chance in any league.

I haven't referenced the rules yet to see if this is possible - but if it is, it shouldn't be! :dammit :feedback

Preds · June 8th, 2005, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutts

So can he really just sit on this all summer without suffering any penalty? If so, its not a bad strategy at all. Sit on 4 quality RBs, find out which one inevitably falls on hard times before the season starts, dump him and take the entire hard cap hit this year and fill out your team with late season acquisitions. You're going to get those guys cheap late in the summer, and there is bound to be players emerge in camp and such that are being overlooked now. You guarantee yourself a solid RB core, and that will give you a chance in any league.

I haven't referenced the rules yet to see if this is possible - but if it is, it shouldn't be! :dammit :feedback

He's not over the cap, why shouldn't it be allowed. Frank hasn't violated any rule that I know of.

Mutts · June 8th, 2005, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds

He's not over the cap, why shouldn't it be allowed. Frank hasn't violated any rule that I know of.

Yeah, didn't think there was any rule against hoarding all summer and then dumping. I think that is partly the reason we are seeing owners with endless amounts of money to spend. Wasting 400 CBs (20% fee incurred to drop a player) in order to hold ransom a 2000 cb player for a few months at the start of a new league might be an effective strategy, it at least allows you to keep your league mates from being able to plan their team around that player.

Personally I don't believe you should be able to go beyond the point that you can field a legal team of at least 100 cb a player - most especially during a league initiating auction.

Burt the Butcher · June 8th, 2005, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutts

Yeah, didn't think there was any rule against hoarding all summer and then dumping. I think that is partly the reason we are seeing owners with endless amounts of money to spend. Wasting 400 CBs (20% fee incurred to drop a player) in order to hold ransom a 2000 cb player for a few months at the start of a new league might be an effective strategy, it at least allows you to keep your league mates from being able to plan their team around that player.

Personally I don't believe you should be able to go beyond the point that you can field a legal team of at least 100 cb a player - most especially during a league initiating auction.

I fail to see how this will give him any kind of advantage, but maybe I am just not that far sighted. Without signing any top quality WR's, I don't see him being able to compete. So the teams without front line RB load up on the top WR's that are left, and at the very least they are equal. It's not like there aren't any starting RB's left. And quite frankly the RB's he has, with the exception of Alexander, aren't going to make anyone quake in their boots. They are definitely servicable, but I don't see a huge line of owners falling over themselves to get them. And he still has to nominate the minimum players, and will have to sign at least the ones no one else bids on. So, bring it on! :bling

Valencia · June 8th, 2005, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutts

Personally I don't believe you should be able to go beyond the point that you can field a legal team of at least 100 cb a player - most especially during a league initiating auction.

:agree But... Unfortunately.. I don't see any rule being broken at this time. :Shrug Whatcha gonna do? Just gotta deal with it and fix it later. :cleanup

Philadelphia Freedom · June 13th, 2005, 12:33 PM

IOP nomination question: I noticed Mike (Preds) has nominated to TE's are we out of the 1 IOP and 1 IDP player each?

Preds · June 13th, 2005, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Philadelphia Freedom

IOP nomination question: I noticed Mike (Preds) has nominated to TE's are we out of the 1 IOP and 1 IDP player each?

I've already nominated 8 IDP's, that's the min, after you nominate 8 on either side of the ball, the additional nominations are your choice.

Philadelphia Freedom · June 13th, 2005, 12:38 PM

Thanks. I will have to check out where I stand. Either way each person still has a limit of 2 nominations at a time correct?

Preds · June 13th, 2005, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Philadelphia Freedom

Thanks. I will have to check out where I stand. Either way each person still has a limit of 2 nominations at a time correct?

Yes 2 noms per team max, and you must nominate a minimum of 20 players, with a min of 8 IOP and 8 IDP.

June 8th, 2005, 09:03 AM	#332
keepers SAC'D Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 465	Re: SAC'D Vet Auction Commentary Alexander at 4000 is a decent price compared to what some other RBs have gone for.

June 8th, 2005, 03:14 PM	#335
The Immortal Ramirez PredsFF.com Portal News Reporters Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,210	Re: SAC'D Vet Auction Commentary Man, three hours without a single bid. Is everythong out of money (most likely) or simply afraid to bid in fear they may have hit to wrong auction and will save Frank from himself! PS: Alexander in Jacksonville wouldn't be all that bad. DT about the same - up & coming QB - about same quality DT in the division (poor).

June 8th, 2005, 03:48 PM	#337
Flaxwless Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 6,050	Re: SAC'D Vet Auction Commentary opcorn __________________ Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects - 1st EVER Feeding Frenzy Champion Bay Area Bloodsuckers 2008 SAC'D Champions - 2nd Worst to First in Year! 2011 SAC'D Champions - #5 seed, # 2 power rankings, #1 in the end!

June 8th, 2005, 03:51 PM	#338
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: SAC'D Vet Auction Commentary :yikes Frank (Bloodsuckers). 1500 on Chrissy Brown? With the 4 RB's you already have ranging from 2750 to 4000? Are you nuts? You asking for cap hell. Won't this put you over the cap? __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

June 8th, 2005, 03:55 PM	#339
Flaxwless Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 6,050	Re: SAC'D Vet Auction Commentary he's a starter... should get paid accordingly __________________ Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects - 1st EVER Feeding Frenzy Champion Bay Area Bloodsuckers 2008 SAC'D Champions - 2nd Worst to First in Year! 2011 SAC'D Champions - #5 seed, # 2 power rankings, #1 in the end!

June 8th, 2005, 04:03 PM	#342
The Immortal Ramirez PredsFF.com Portal News Reporters Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,210	Re: SAC'D Vet Auction Commentary Darn you, Randilover. I was hoping Smith would be missed because of the injury last year... rats

June 8th, 2005, 04:19 PM	#345
Nittany Dodgers Feeding Frenzy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Maplewood, MN Posts: 5,204	Re: SAC'D Vet Auction Commentary Wow, Mike, and opening bid on Faulk of 1000. He's already overpaid.

June 8th, 2005, 04:29 PM	#349
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: SAC'D Vet Auction Commentary Not bad :burt, you're learning... that's semi decent smack coming from such and OLD guy! __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

June 8th, 2005, 07:12 PM	#350
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: SAC'D Vet Auction Commentary Heh, the Bloodsuckers have now won a total of 10 players, and spent a whopping 95.25% of the cap in doing so! Frank's currently spent $19,050, and has just 950 cb's to sign a minimum of 12 players, which isn't possible without a trade or cut. Curious to see how this turns out... I'll wager Frank has to give up more than he gets, and that's not counting one of the RB's... I can see having to part with a RB and a high pick for a low pick, kinda like the Subzero / Grief deal with the 2 overpaid IDP's. This should be fun to watch! So who's gonna bail the Bloodsuckers out? We know several of you need a RB... whose gonna step up to the plate? opcorn __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

June 13th, 2005, 12:33 PM	#357
Philadelphia Freedom Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Posts: 6,270	Re: SAC'D Vet Auction Commentary IOP nomination question: I noticed Mike (Preds) has nominated to TE's are we out of the 1 IOP and 1 IDP player each?

June 13th, 2005, 12:38 PM	#359
Philadelphia Freedom Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Posts: 6,270	Re: SAC'D Vet Auction Commentary Thanks. I will have to check out where I stand. Either way each person still has a limit of 2 nominations at a time correct?

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