RB Lance Ball DEN - *** SOLD *** to Chunks (130/1)

Burt the Butcher · November 15th, 2011, 06:00 PM

100

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · November 16th, 2011, 03:03 AM

105

Burt the Butcher · November 16th, 2011, 10:36 AM

110

emerald · November 16th, 2011, 10:46 AM

115

Burt the Butcher · November 16th, 2011, 12:35 PM

120

If this is defensive move because I play you this week, it is for naught...the clock for bidding on Ball will stop tonight at midnight ;-) So he won't be a factor in this weeks games...

emerald · November 16th, 2011, 12:39 PM

125

It could be a defensive play because I play you next week too...

Burt the Butcher · November 16th, 2011, 01:18 PM

130

...touche

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · November 17th, 2011, 07:22 PM

SOLD... to the Chunks.
Years? Cuts?

Burt the Butcher · November 18th, 2011, 08:55 AM

While I would love to have him for 130, he is not yet sold - according to the rules:

"Also note, that for players involved in Thursday or Saturday games, the clock will suspend the evening prior to their game(s) at 11:59pm and won't resume until the following Tuesday at 12:00am"

Thus, with the Donkeys playing Thursday, the clock stopped running Midnight Wednesday, and won't resume until Tuesday....longgggggggggggggggggggggggg wait...

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · November 18th, 2011, 01:35 PM

The rules page I looked at said it locks at gametime... that's why I thought he had sold to you. I'll look back up to double check.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · November 18th, 2011, 01:37 PM

Yep... here it is:

Quote:

Bidding for Free Agents will take place each week from 12:00am Tuesday until 11:59pm Saturday. Exceptions to this schedule will occur during weeks where there are Thursday games. During these weeks, Bidding will begin at 12:00am Tuesday, and end at 11:59pm Saturday however, players involved in the Thursday game(s) cannot be bid upon from gametime Thursday until the following Tuesday at 11:59pm.

According to that, since your player sold BEFORE KICKOFF on Thursday, he's yours.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · November 18th, 2011, 01:40 PM

Okay... in the same section, we get this:

Quote:

If a bid is made on any player between 12:00am Sunday and 11:59pm Monday the bid will be treated as if it were made on Tuesday at 12:00am and the 24 hour challenge period will not begin until that time. Also note, that for players involved in Thursday or Saturday games, the clock will suspend the evening prior to their game(s) at 11:59pm and won't resume until the following Tuesday at 12:00am.

So it may be conflicting.
Hmmm....

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · November 18th, 2011, 01:42 PM

Either way, we need to clean this up. Thursday Players can ALWAYS be bid on after the game... the clock just won't start again until Tuesday morning. Plus, what's with 11:59pm Tuesday (that should be MONDAY!).

Burt the Butcher · November 18th, 2011, 04:03 PM

So what's the ruling...is he mine now, or is clock stopped? Seems to me the 2nd rules of suspending the clock at midnight of the day prior, is consistent with the main rule of clock stopping midnight Saturday for Sunday games.

But if he is mine, let me know, and I will make the necessary moves to add him to my roster...

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · November 18th, 2011, 04:11 PM

What's the language in SAC'D?
I think you're right in that the midnight prior is consistent with the rules for Sunday games. I think I'd rule with midnight prior.

zdravko27 · November 18th, 2011, 04:53 PM

This looks pretty straight-forward to the lawyer in me. The guiding principle comes from the rules for regular bids where the clock stops at 12:01 am on game day. Normally, game day is a Sunday, so players have to sell by Saturday. In this case, game day is Thursday, so a player has to sell by Wednesday. Lance Ball did not sell on Wednesday, so we wait. Just my $0.02.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · November 18th, 2011, 05:01 PM

I'm not a lawyer... didn't even sleep at a Holiday Inn last night... but yah, I'd agree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zdravko27

This looks pretty straight-forward to the lawyer in me. The guiding principle comes from the rules for regular bids where the clock stops at 12:01 am on game day. Normally, game day is a Sunday, so players have to sell by Saturday. In this case, game day is Thursday, so a player has to sell by Wednesday. Lance Ball did not sell on Wednesday, so we wait. Just my $0.02.

Burt the Butcher · November 18th, 2011, 05:54 PM

We have the same discrepancy in SAC'd rules, as I suspected, since Mike just copied Frenzy and modified them for IDP's and other minor differences.

But I agree with Mike also, we should go with the flavor of normal bidding and stop the clock at midnight of day before games are played.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · November 23rd, 2011, 04:08 AM

SOLD... to Chunks (130).
Cuts? Years?

Burt the Butcher · November 23rd, 2011, 09:05 AM

1 year

November 15th, 2011, 06:00 PM	#1
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	RB Lance Ball DEN - * SOLD * to Chunks (130/1) 100 __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

November 16th, 2011, 03:03 AM	#2
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN 105

November 16th, 2011, 10:36 AM	#3
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN 110 __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

November 16th, 2011, 10:46 AM	#4
emerald Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 5,045	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN 115 __________________ Every Fantasy Football League has 3 teams. If you look around and only see 2...

November 16th, 2011, 12:35 PM	#5
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN 120 If this is defensive move because I play you this week, it is for naught...the clock for bidding on Ball will stop tonight at midnight ;-) So he won't be a factor in this weeks games... __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

November 16th, 2011, 12:39 PM	#6
emerald Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 5,045	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN 125 It could be a defensive play because I play you next week too... __________________ Every Fantasy Football League has 3 teams. If you look around and only see 2... Last edited by emerald; November 16th, 2011 at 12:49 PM. Reason: forgot to increase bid!

November 16th, 2011, 01:18 PM	#7
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN 130 ...touche __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

November 17th, 2011, 07:22 PM	#8
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN SOLD... to the Chunks. Years? Cuts?

November 18th, 2011, 08:55 AM	#9
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN - * SOLD * to the Chunks (130/?) While I would love to have him for 130, he is not yet sold - according to the rules: "Also note, that for players involved in Thursday or Saturday games, the clock will suspend the evening prior to their game(s) at 11:59pm and won't resume until the following Tuesday at 12:00am" Thus, with the Donkeys playing Thursday, the clock stopped running Midnight Wednesday, and won't resume until Tuesday....longgggggggggggggggggggggggg wait... __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

November 18th, 2011, 01:35 PM	#10
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN The rules page I looked at said it locks at gametime... that's why I thought he had sold to you. I'll look back up to double check.

November 18th, 2011, 01:42 PM	#13
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN Either way, we need to clean this up. Thursday Players can ALWAYS be bid on after the game... the clock just won't start again until Tuesday morning. Plus, what's with 11:59pm Tuesday (that should be MONDAY!).

November 18th, 2011, 04:03 PM	#14
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN So what's the ruling...is he mine now, or is clock stopped? Seems to me the 2nd rules of suspending the clock at midnight of the day prior, is consistent with the main rule of clock stopping midnight Saturday for Sunday games. But if he is mine, let me know, and I will make the necessary moves to add him to my roster... __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

November 18th, 2011, 04:11 PM	#15
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN What's the language in SAC'D? I think you're right in that the midnight prior is consistent with the rules for Sunday games. I think I'd rule with midnight prior.

November 18th, 2011, 04:53 PM	#16
zdravko27 Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 916	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN This looks pretty straight-forward to the lawyer in me. The guiding principle comes from the rules for regular bids where the clock stops at 12:01 am on game day. Normally, game day is a Sunday, so players have to sell by Saturday. In this case, game day is Thursday, so a player has to sell by Wednesday. Lance Ball did not sell on Wednesday, so we wait. Just my $0.02.

November 18th, 2011, 05:54 PM	#18
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN We have the same discrepancy in SAC'd rules, as I suspected, since Mike just copied Frenzy and modified them for IDP's and other minor differences. But I agree with Mike also, we should go with the flavor of normal bidding and stop the clock at midnight of day before games are played. __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

November 23rd, 2011, 04:08 AM	#19
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN SOLD... to Chunks (130). Cuts? Years?

November 23rd, 2011, 09:05 AM	#20
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: RB Lance Ball DEN - * SOLD * to Chunks (130/?) 1 year __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

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