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Burt the Butcher November 15th, 2011 06:00 PM

RB Lance Ball DEN - *** SOLD *** to Chunks (130/1)
 
100

Royal Hawaiian Opihi November 16th, 2011 03:03 AM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
105

Burt the Butcher November 16th, 2011 10:36 AM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
110

emerald November 16th, 2011 10:46 AM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
115

Burt the Butcher November 16th, 2011 12:35 PM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
120

If this is defensive move because I play you this week, it is for naught...the clock for bidding on Ball will stop tonight at midnight ;-) So he won't be a factor in this weeks games...

emerald November 16th, 2011 12:39 PM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
125

It could be a defensive play because I play you next week too...

Burt the Butcher November 16th, 2011 01:18 PM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
130

LOL...touche

Royal Hawaiian Opihi November 17th, 2011 07:22 PM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
SOLD... to the Chunks.
Years? Cuts?

Burt the Butcher November 18th, 2011 08:55 AM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN - *** SOLD *** to the Chunks (130/?)
 
While I would love to have him for 130, he is not yet sold - according to the rules:

"Also note, that for players involved in Thursday or Saturday games, the clock will suspend the evening prior to their game(s) at 11:59pm and won't resume until the following Tuesday at 12:00am"

Thus, with the Donkeys playing Thursday, the clock stopped running Midnight Wednesday, and won't resume until Tuesday....longgggggggggggggggggggggggg wait...

Royal Hawaiian Opihi November 18th, 2011 01:35 PM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
The rules page I looked at said it locks at gametime... that's why I thought he had sold to you. I'll look back up to double check.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi November 18th, 2011 01:37 PM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
Yep... here it is:

Quote:

Bidding for Free Agents will take place each week from 12:00am Tuesday until 11:59pm Saturday. Exceptions to this schedule will occur during weeks where there are Thursday games. During these weeks, Bidding will begin at 12:00am Tuesday, and end at 11:59pm Saturday however, players involved in the Thursday game(s) cannot be bid upon from gametime Thursday until the following Tuesday at 11:59pm.
According to that, since your player sold BEFORE KICKOFF on Thursday, he's yours.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi November 18th, 2011 01:40 PM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
Okay... in the same section, we get this:

Quote:

If a bid is made on any player between 12:00am Sunday and 11:59pm Monday the bid will be treated as if it were made on Tuesday at 12:00am and the 24 hour challenge period will not begin until that time. Also note, that for players involved in Thursday or Saturday games, the clock will suspend the evening prior to their game(s) at 11:59pm and won't resume until the following Tuesday at 12:00am.
So it may be conflicting.
Hmmm....

Royal Hawaiian Opihi November 18th, 2011 01:42 PM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
Either way, we need to clean this up. Thursday Players can ALWAYS be bid on after the game... the clock just won't start again until Tuesday morning. Plus, what's with 11:59pm Tuesday (that should be MONDAY!).

Burt the Butcher November 18th, 2011 04:03 PM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
So what's the ruling...is he mine now, or is clock stopped? Seems to me the 2nd rules of suspending the clock at midnight of the day prior, is consistent with the main rule of clock stopping midnight Saturday for Sunday games.

But if he is mine, let me know, and I will make the necessary moves to add him to my roster...

Royal Hawaiian Opihi November 18th, 2011 04:11 PM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
What's the language in SAC'D?
I think you're right in that the midnight prior is consistent with the rules for Sunday games. I think I'd rule with midnight prior.

zdravko27 November 18th, 2011 04:53 PM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
This looks pretty straight-forward to the lawyer in me. The guiding principle comes from the rules for regular bids where the clock stops at 12:01 am on game day. Normally, game day is a Sunday, so players have to sell by Saturday. In this case, game day is Thursday, so a player has to sell by Wednesday. Lance Ball did not sell on Wednesday, so we wait. Just my $0.02.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi November 18th, 2011 05:01 PM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
I'm not a lawyer... didn't even sleep at a Holiday Inn last night... but yah, I'd agree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zdravko27 (Post 99155)
This looks pretty straight-forward to the lawyer in me. The guiding principle comes from the rules for regular bids where the clock stops at 12:01 am on game day. Normally, game day is a Sunday, so players have to sell by Saturday. In this case, game day is Thursday, so a player has to sell by Wednesday. Lance Ball did not sell on Wednesday, so we wait. Just my $0.02.


Burt the Butcher November 18th, 2011 05:54 PM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
We have the same discrepancy in SAC'd rules, as I suspected, since Mike just copied Frenzy and modified them for IDP's and other minor differences.

But I agree with Mike also, we should go with the flavor of normal bidding and stop the clock at midnight of day before games are played.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi November 23rd, 2011 04:08 AM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN
 
SOLD... to Chunks (130).
Cuts? Years?

Burt the Butcher November 23rd, 2011 09:05 AM

Re: RB Lance Ball DEN - *** SOLD *** to Chunks (130/?)
 
1 year


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