Rookie Draft

[The Immortal Ramirez]

Let the fun begin...

E-mail Addy Summary

Rami - spains@compmgt.com
Dodgers - briangiel@hotmail.com
paulsonpatch - burtpaulson2002@yahoo.com
randi - mike_page_bisys@yahoo.com
Preds - BUFFALO PITBULLS - Preds1@gmail.com
Freedom - matthew.marshall@drexel.edu
Keepers - jackb@sympatico.ca
Skippy - noah@ffforecaster.com
Swords - pmullins@tisbook.com
Insects - xxjabronixx@hotmail.com
Valencia - wineluvr22@aol.com
Mutts - jda@accessbraille.com

still need to hear from the Mutts

FYI... I will enter the email addy's into the randomizer in the exact same order as listed above.

This is the site I will be using: http://www.profantasysports.com/DraftRandomizer.htm

- Preds

[The Immortal Ramirez]

BTW, if Preds doesn't have your e-mail, can you get it to him, so he can do the random draft!

[Preds]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Ramirez

BTW, if Preds doesn't have your e-mail, can you get it to him, so he can do the random draft!

I'd like them all posted here in this thread if possible... I don't want to go searching for em. Thanks.

[Preds]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Ramirez

Let the fun begin...

The poll here is flawed... Matt's idea is not represented (I'd lean that way FWIW).

[The Immortal Ramirez]

spains@compmgt.com

Also, adjusted the poll. Forgot his way. No way was I going to type that whole thing in there....

[Nittany Dodgers]

4 options? This is going to be a cluster ####.

briangiel@hotmail.com

[Burt the Butcher]

So is the draft order based on the random drawing, or does the random drawing determine who gets to select their spot first?

burtpaulson2002@yahoo.com

[The Immortal Ramirez]

from my understanding the random drawing is to allow that owner where they want to draw. The first person drawn may not see the value of #1 pick (the fool) and choose to go elsewhere....

[Burt the Butcher]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Ramirez

from my understanding the random drawing is to allow that owner where they want to draw. The first person drawn may not see the value of #1 pick (the fool) and choose to go elsewhere....

Yah, I should have read the final few posting in the original thread.

BTW, the first couple picks are no-brainers, it's the mid-picks where things could start changing and be advatageous to take a lower pick. It all depends on which method we choose.

So stating that, we should wait on making the random drawing until this vote is finalized, which from the looks of the first 3 votes, may take a few tries (don't say it Preds.....)

[randilover]

mike_page_bisys@yahoo.com

EDIT: you might not be able to make it out, but there are underscores between each word.

[Philadelphia Freedom]

matthew.marshall@drexel.edu

I honestly don't care but after all the time I am going with my convulted draft order.

[Preds]

Why do we have 6 email addy's but only 5 votes. Who has skipped their vote? (don't make me check out the Admin Panel dang you!)

[Nittany Dodgers]

I voted. So far it is 0-1-2-2. The cluster is on!

[The Immortal Ramirez]

there are six votes, but actually I hadn't voted yet. Being the one who set the poll, I didn't want to vote immediately.

[Preds]

If this ends in a draw can we kill the rookie draft concept and just throw them into the vet auction? ;)

[keepers]

jackb@sympatico.ca

I have voted 1-12 and then 12-1 every round after. I am also fine with Matt's solution (thinking it over don't know that we have to go such extremes as Matt's since the declining $$ for each successive pick will also have a bit of an evening effect).

[Preds]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Ramirez

there are six votes, but actually I hadn't voted yet. Being the one who set the poll, I didn't want to vote immediately.

There are 6 votes now because Keepers was the last in... (still need the email addy posted). State your mind Rami.

[Nittany Dodgers]

0-2-2-2. :smoke

[Preds]

Originally Posted by Preds

If this ends in a draw can we kill the rookie draft concept and just throw them into the vet auction? ;)

bump ;)

what is matt's way?

[Nittany Dodgers]

Originally Posted by Preds

If this ends in a draw can we kill the rookie draft concept and just throw them into the vet auction? ;)

No. I'll come up with a 5th alternative, and we can revote. We'll each get two votes to vote for our top two proposals we are in favor of, and one negative vote which we can use to take a vote away from the alternative we like the least. If it is still tied, the votes will remain the same, but we'll change our second affirmitive vote to only count as a half vote. Also, the negative votes cast will not count as a full negative vote, they will count as pi/100. That should eliminate all ties.

[The Immortal Ramirez]

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

No. I'll come up with a 5th alternative, and we can revote. We'll each get two votes to vote for our top two proposals we are in favor of, and one negative vote which we can use to take a vote away from the alternative we like the least. If it is still tied, the votes will remain the same, but we'll change our second affirmitive vote to only count as a half vote. Also, the negative votes cast will not count as a full negative vote, they will count as pi/100. That should eliminate all ties.

this hurts just reading it...

[Preds]

Originally Posted by Skippy the One Eyed Beagle

what is matt's way?

Start with post # 77 on page 4 of this thread http://predsff.com/forums/showthread...0019#post30019 and work your way down, though post 77 is a good rough idea of his concept.

[The Immortal Ramirez]

Matt's:

After looking at Brian’s post I updated the Excel sheet to show the right values. In this case the average per team is 4313 and here are the individual values (assuming Team 1 has pick 1.1 and Team 12 has pick 1.12) which are shockingly well distributed around that average:

Team 1: 4370
Team 2: 4250
Team 3: 4346
Team 4: 4255
Team 5: 4210
Team 6: 4295
Team 7: 4320
Team 8: 4340
Team 9: 4310
Team 10: 4332
Team 11: 4350
Team 12: 4380

Using the chart (for what it is worth to even each teams value) here is each teams picks:

Team 1: 4370
1.01-3000
5.03-380
6.03-265
6.04-260
6.07-245
6.12-220

Team 2: 4250
1.02-2600
3.06-600
5.11-300
6.02-270
6.05-255
6.11-225

Team 3 :4346
1.03-2200
2.10-780
3.10-550
5.10-310
6.01-276
6.10-230

Team 4: 4255
1.04-1800
2.09-800
3.03-660
4.09-440
5.09-320
6.09-235

Team 5: 4210
1.05-1700
2.08-850
3.04-640
4.08-450
5.08-330
6.08-240

Team 6: 4295
1.06-1600
2.07-875
3.07-590
4.07-460
4.10-430
5.07-340

Team 7: 4320
1.07-1500
2.06-900
2.11-740
3.08-580
5.06-350
6.06-250

Team 8: 4340
1.08-1400
2.05-950
3.05-620
3.12-530
4.05-480
5.05-360

Team 9: 4310
1.09-1350
2.04-1000
3.09-560
3.11-540
4.04-490
5.04-370

Team 10: 4332
1.10-1300
2.03-1050
2.12-720
4.03-500
4.06-470
5.12-292

Team 11: 4350
1.11-1250
2.02-1100
3.02-680
4.02-510
4.11-420
5.02-390

Team 12: 4380
1.12-1200
2.01-1150
3.01-700
4.01-520
4.12-410
5.01-400

[Preds]

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

No. I'll come up with a 5th alternative, and we can revote. We'll each get two votes to vote for our top two proposals we are in favor of, and one negative vote which we can use to take a vote away from the alternative we like the least. If it is still tied, the votes will remain the same, but we'll change our second affirmitive vote to only count as a half vote. Also, the negative votes cast will not count as a full negative vote, they will count as pi/100. That should eliminate all ties.

DAMN YOU... I just spit out my Pepsi again!

[The Immortal Ramirez]

no Diet Pepsi today?

[Preds]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Ramirez

no Diet Pepsi today?

shhh... I got roasted for the Diet Pepsi thing last week... thought I'd keep it on the down low today ;)

[Nittany Dodgers]

Originally Posted by The Immortal Ramirez

this hurts just reading it...

Ahh, it worked.


Was it diet again, Mike? Nevermind.

noah@ffforecaster.com

[Liquid Swords]

Originally Posted by Preds

If this ends in a draw can we kill the rookie draft concept and just throw them into the vet auction? ;)

I second this proposal :box

pmullins@tisbook.com

You'll get my vote here in a lil' while....anybody got a coin?