Hell Mutts gnaw into Floyds

Burt the Butcher · February 26th, 2013, 10:35 AM

Hell Mutts gives 2013 1.01 + Tony Gonzalez (500/1)
Floyds gives 2013 1.07 + Luke Kuechly (135/4) + Deangelo Williams (950/1).

John to confirm
Reneg to follow...

emerald · February 26th, 2013, 10:46 AM

Confirm.

Renegotiate DWilliams to 3 years (1100/3).

Thanks for the deal and Good Luck with 1.01 Burt!!!

Burt the Butcher · February 26th, 2013, 10:49 AM

I'll take a chance that the Falcons convince ToGo to come back one more year, and reneg him to 650cb/2yrs

Thanks John...enjoy the top LB from last year. That makes 3 of the 2012 top 4 LB's I have traded away in a year...nice...or idiotic...

emerald · February 26th, 2013, 11:30 AM

Yep...that's my strategy! Let you pick who is going to be the best and try to get him from you!!!

If Atlanta signs Steve Jackson I don't see how TonyG couldn't sign on in 2013...

emerald · March 6th, 2013, 01:27 PM

For accuracy...It looks like LKuechly contract is (160/4) instead of (135/4).

Liquid Swords · March 13th, 2013, 05:15 PM

I'm showing Hell Mutts 3 years over the active roster cap years.

Also, not sure if this matters (I don't think it does) but Floyds are 1 active IDP short.

Burt the Butcher · March 13th, 2013, 05:33 PM

Are you sure you did not already process this trade:
http://www.predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21500

MFL shows John at 67 years, with 2 on IR, so legal at 65

As to the minimums:
Beginning with the 1st day of In-Season Free Agency, each team must maintain a minimum of 13 Offensive Players (IOP's) and 9 Defensive Players (IDP's) on their Active Roster. The 13 IOP and 9 IDP's can be any mix of positions within either side of the ball, as long as you have at least 13 on offense and 9 on defense. During the off-season(which commences after the Super Bowl, teams are allowed to be below these minimums.

emerald · March 13th, 2013, 06:23 PM

I found at what point I went over...it was March 6th when I reneg'd Chad Greenway from 523/2 to 823/5. I was already maxed at 65 years and then I added 3 more years!

I think I have to be fined 20% of 823 = 165 cb's and must make cuts to free up at least 3 years (still soft cap period).

IF I am correct then I will cut both RB MTurner (988/2) and LB SNicholas (100/1).

Ruling???

Burt the Butcher · March 13th, 2013, 06:36 PM

So at what point did you go over the cap years? Once you renegged DWill to 3 years?

emerald · March 13th, 2013, 06:39 PM

I believe the point was when I reneg'd Chad Greenway to 5 years from 2 on March 6th...

Burt the Butcher · March 13th, 2013, 07:04 PM

OK, well then to keep it simple, you would need to take the 20% cap hit on both Kuechly and DWill at their salary levels at the time. Make the cuts to get under. Then reneg, DWill, making any other cuts needed to get under years after reneg...

emerald · March 13th, 2013, 08:15 PM

After the Kuechly/DWilliams trade and DWilliams reneg on Feb 26th I was still legal.

I went over on years on March 6th when I reneg'd Chad Greenway from 523/2 to 823/5.

I don't think there are any penalties on the DWilliams trade or reneg due. I think the confusion might be that all this discussion is on that trades thread when I responded to Pat's observation that I was over (on this thread) on years...

Burt the Butcher · March 14th, 2013, 09:24 AM

Ah ok..I get it now....ok, well since Reneg's are not really due until March 31, then just make the cuts, no penalties necessary...

February 26th, 2013, 10:35 AM	#1
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Hell Mutts gnaw into Floyds Hell Mutts gives 2013 1.01 + Tony Gonzalez (500/1) Floyds gives 2013 1.07 + Luke Kuechly (135/4) + Deangelo Williams (950/1). John to confirm Reneg to follow... __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

February 26th, 2013, 10:46 AM	#2
emerald Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 5,045	Re: Hell Mutts gnaw into Floyds Confirm. Renegotiate DWilliams to 3 years (1100/3). Thanks for the deal and Good Luck with 1.01 Burt!!! __________________ Every Fantasy Football League has 3 teams. If you look around and only see 2...

February 26th, 2013, 10:49 AM	#3
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: Hell Mutts gnaw into Floyds I'll take a chance that the Falcons convince ToGo to come back one more year, and reneg him to 650cb/2yrs Thanks John...enjoy the top LB from last year. That makes 3 of the 2012 top 4 LB's I have traded away in a year...nice...or idiotic... __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

February 26th, 2013, 11:30 AM	#4
emerald Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 5,045	Re: Hell Mutts gnaw into Floyds Yep...that's my strategy! Let you pick who is going to be the best and try to get him from you!!! If Atlanta signs Steve Jackson I don't see how TonyG couldn't sign on in 2013... __________________ Every Fantasy Football League has 3 teams. If you look around and only see 2...

March 6th, 2013, 01:27 PM	#5
emerald Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 5,045	Re: Hell Mutts gnaw into Floyds For accuracy...It looks like LKuechly contract is (160/4) instead of (135/4). __________________ Every Fantasy Football League has 3 teams. If you look around and only see 2...

March 13th, 2013, 05:15 PM	#6
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	Re: Hell Mutts gnaw into Floyds I'm showing Hell Mutts 3 years over the active roster cap years. Also, not sure if this matters (I don't think it does) but Floyds are 1 active IDP short.

March 13th, 2013, 05:33 PM	#7
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: Hell Mutts gnaw into Floyds Are you sure you did not already process this trade: http://www.predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21500 MFL shows John at 67 years, with 2 on IR, so legal at 65 As to the minimums: Beginning with the 1st day of In-Season Free Agency, each team must maintain a minimum of 13 Offensive Players (IOP's) and 9 Defensive Players (IDP's) on their Active Roster. The 13 IOP and 9 IDP's can be any mix of positions within either side of the ball, as long as you have at least 13 on offense and 9 on defense. During the off-season(which commences after the Super Bowl, teams are allowed to be below these minimums. __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

March 13th, 2013, 06:23 PM	#8
emerald Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 5,045	Re: Hell Mutts gnaw into Floyds I found at what point I went over...it was March 6th when I reneg'd Chad Greenway from 523/2 to 823/5. I was already maxed at 65 years and then I added 3 more years! I think I have to be fined 20% of 823 = 165 cb's and must make cuts to free up at least 3 years (still soft cap period). IF I am correct then I will cut both RB MTurner (988/2) and LB SNicholas (100/1). Ruling??? __________________ Every Fantasy Football League has 3 teams. If you look around and only see 2... Last edited by emerald; March 13th, 2013 at 06:47 PM. Reason: corrected CGreenway cb totals and 20% penalty

March 13th, 2013, 06:36 PM	#9
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: Hell Mutts gnaw into Floyds So at what point did you go over the cap years? Once you renegged DWill to 3 years? __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

March 13th, 2013, 06:39 PM	#10
emerald Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 5,045	Re: Hell Mutts gnaw into Floyds I believe the point was when I reneg'd Chad Greenway to 5 years from 2 on March 6th... __________________ Every Fantasy Football League has 3 teams. If you look around and only see 2...

March 13th, 2013, 07:04 PM	#11
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: Hell Mutts gnaw into Floyds OK, well then to keep it simple, you would need to take the 20% cap hit on both Kuechly and DWill at their salary levels at the time. Make the cuts to get under. Then reneg, DWill, making any other cuts needed to get under years after reneg... __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

March 13th, 2013, 08:15 PM	#12
emerald Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 5,045	Re: Hell Mutts gnaw into Floyds After the Kuechly/DWilliams trade and DWilliams reneg on Feb 26th I was still legal. I went over on years on March 6th when I reneg'd Chad Greenway from 523/2 to 823/5. I don't think there are any penalties on the DWilliams trade or reneg due. I think the confusion might be that all this discussion is on that trades thread when I responded to Pat's observation that I was over (on this thread) on years... __________________ Every Fantasy Football League has 3 teams. If you look around and only see 2...

March 14th, 2013, 09:24 AM	#13
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: Hell Mutts gnaw into Floyds Ah ok..I get it now....ok, well since Reneg's are not really due until March 31, then just make the cuts, no penalties necessary... __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

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