2008 RFA Tender Amounts

[Amish]

Just a reminder

1st round tenders = 4 points

2nd round tenders = 3 points

3rd round tenders = 2 points

4th round tenders = 1 point

The points for all declined players, added up, would get the following compensation levels:

8 points = 1st round comp

4 points = 2nd round comp

2 points = 3rd round comp

1 point = 4th round comp

[Amish]

Sticky?

[Popes]

Done.

[Amish]

You da man

[Amish]

UP TO DATE! 5/1 - Pending Jamal Lewis and Drew Bennett

Then we can decide on picks.

Can someone remind me if the order of the picks goes overall TOTAL of comp over??

Then tonight I will work on the final draft app and send that out once everyone decides on their comp picks.

Joel

[Royal Hawaiian Opihi]

Originally Posted by Amish

Can someone remind me if the order of the picks goes overall TOTAL of comp over??

I believe so, yes.

[Popes]

I know that you found the answer in the other thread, just putting it here so no one's lost.

Originally Posted by Popes

Amongst picks of the same round, the order will be determined by the higher of the total tender levels of all players declined. The tiebreaker will be the higher of the total amounts paid over tender level of all players declined.

http://www.predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11954

[Philadelphia Freedom]

Amongst picks of the same round, the order will be determined by the higher of the total tender levels of all players declined. The tiebreaker will be the higher of the total amounts paid over tender level of all players declined.

For future reference can we review this? If I tendered a fourth rounder and then they sold for a very high price I suddenly jump to the front of the list in any round where there are multiple picks in that round? I know the administration of these picks is a challenge but this seems kind of silly.

[Royal Hawaiian Opihi]

Originally Posted by Philadelphia Freedom

For future reference can we review this? If I tendered a fourth rounder and then they sold for a very high price I suddenly jump to the front of the list in any round where there are multiple picks in that round? I know the administration of these picks is a challenge but this seems kind of silly.

This is an excellent point, Matt. We might want to say that your "place in line" would vary depending on your original tender. I know this is more challenging administratively, but if you tender a player as a 4th, and he goes for 1500 over the tender price, you should only get that credit for FOURTH ROUND tenders (or the equivalent "points" - ie. first round tender results in 4 points, ie. 2nd round pick.). Make sense?

[Popes]

I think you guys are getting off track here. The amount over tender only comes into play as a tie-breaker if two people have declined the exact same amount of tendered salaries. That's got to be pretty rare.

In Matt's scenario, if you tendered a 4th that sells high, then you have the tiebreaker, but you probably won't get to use it because you tendered too low and won't be near the top in total tender amount declined.

Total amount tender is the main variable. If I declined guys tendered at 2400, 1200, and 600 (4200 total) and you declined 2400, 1200, and 300 (3900), then I pick before you in any round where we both have picks.

Joel, you need to rework your #s to be total amount tendered, then look at the amount over tender ONLY if there's a tie.

[Amish]

Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi

This is an excellent point, Matt. We might want to say that your "place in line" would vary depending on your original tender. I know this is more challenging administratively, but if you tender a player as a 4th, and he goes for 1500 over the tender price, you should only get that credit for FOURTH ROUND tenders (or the equivalent "points" - ie. first round tender results in 4 points, ie. 2nd round pick.). Make sense?

I totally agree. That is why I asked the question when doing the list. It seemed silly that mutts and I got the highest picks because we "mistendered" our players.

Maybe we could do it like this

1st round - no cap
2nd round - max over counting to comp picks would be 500
3rd round - max over counting to comp picks would be 300
4th round - max over counting to comp picks would be 100

So say you tender a RB as a 2nd. (1600) And he sold for 2250. Instead of getting 650 for the total, you'd only get 300. This could force people to tender more correctly also.

[Amish]

Originally Posted by Popes

Joel, you need to rework your #s to be total amount tendered, then look at the amount over tender ONLY if there's a tie.

This isn't the post where I did that. It's here http://www.predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12214

[Preds]

The best solution IMO is what I proposed in SACD.

Follow the link to see what I proposed to Burt, specifically option 3.

http://predsff.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12165

[Popes]

Sorry, getting confused about what's in each thread. Yeah, I meant in that other thread.

Regardless, we've set a way to do it that's really simple and it already encourages people to tender at the right amount, because they will be farther back in the order if they tender too low.

[Popes]

By my unofficial tally, the only times the tiebreaker (amount over tender) come into play this year are when Mutts & Amish pick in the same round and when Opihi & Freedom pick in the same round.

[Amish]

I read the whole thing wrong and will be redoing the picks. I went by total over the tender amount not the total tender amounts.

Sorry about the confusion