RFA Bidding... PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING BIDS

[Preds]

With the opening of the RFA Bidding period just hours away, I thought it’d be pertinent to lay down some ground rules on how the bidding should occur, specifically on how to format bids and whatnot. Tracking bids will be much easier if everyone conforms to the formats below.

1. There is no need to enter your team name, since your user ID’s automatically will list your team name and helmet next to all posts. Further the server will timestamp all posts.

2. All Initial Bids must follow the same format for the Subject Line… that is

Position, Player’s Full name, NFL Team

The first line of the body of the message enter the initial bid amount
You may add some commentary if you wish by skipping a line and then entering your message on the 3rd line.

for example:
Subject line:
RB, Marshal Faulk, St Louis
Message Body:
2100

Can't let him go at a tender amount of 2000.

3. All subsequent bids must be within the same thread as the Initial bid. Please list your increased bid on the 1st line of the message. You may add commentary if you wish by skipping a line and then entering your message on the 3rd line.

continuing the Faulk example:
2250

Can’t let Jake get him TOO cheap!

4. All player’s must have their OWN bidding thread.

DO NOT bid upon multiple players in 1 thread. Doing so will invalidate all bids after the initial player, further, the violating team will be prohibited upon bidding on involved players for 14 days.

5. All bids must start AT or ABOVE the tender amount.

6.Keep in mind the minimum bid increment amounts.

For bids from 100-999 the minimum bid increment is 5

For bids from 1000-1999 the minimum bid increment is 20

For bids from 2000 and up, the minimum bid increment is 50

7. Remember, RFA bidding is much different than UFA bidding. The tendering team will have the opportunity to match the winning bid, therefore don’t bid too low or you could be giving a guy away to the tendering team.

8. Players will be considered SOLD if a bid is not increased within 48 hours of the last bid.

9. The tendering team will have 72 hours from the timestamp of the winning bid to match the winning bid and retain the player at the winning bid price. The match must be posted in the same thread where all the bidding occurred.

10. Have fun!

[Philadelphia Freedom]

8. Players will be considered SOLD if a bid is not increased within 48 hours of the last bid.

The 48 hours applies with no additional time for weekend correct? Ie bidding stops at 8 am this morning that players is then sold on Sunday morning.

[Mutts]

Originally Posted by Philadelphia Freedom

The 48 hours applies with no additional time for weekend correct? Ie bidding stops at 8 am this morning that players is then sold on Sunday morning.

That is my understanding.

[Philadelphia Freedom]

Thanks. I guess that also means that for those players that have not bid on by midnight tonight they will stay with the tendering team at the tender price?

[Preds]

Originally Posted by Philadelphia Freedom

Thanks. I guess that also means that for those players that have not bid on by midnight tonight they will stay with the tendering team at the tender price?

No that is incorrect. The RFA period runs through April 30, and bidding can open on these players at any time. Once bidding opens, the player will sell after 48 hours pass with no further bids.

[Nittany Dodgers]

When is the 72 hour weekend clock in effect? Is that for off season and in season free agency, or have we done away with that altogether?

[Preds]

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

When is the 72 hour weekend clock in effect? Is that for off season and in season free agency, or have we done away with that altogether?

If I recall, that is for the off-season UFA period which opens in mid-May

[Nittany Dodgers]

Originally Posted by Preds

No that is incorrect. The RFA period runs through April 30, and bidding can open on these players at any time. Once bidding opens, the player will sell after 48 hours pass with no further bids.

Another thing I was going to propose, but now it is probably too late is to address this. As some may recall, at the end of each of the last two RFA periods, there has been only player that no one wanted to bid on, and we had to discuss if someone would just open the bidding so the team can match and then we can move on. With the new structure, that really isn't an option. I was thinking we could institure a rule where if it has been 48 hours since the close of the last open bidding thread (starting at the match or decline of that RFA), and no other RFA has been opened up for bidding, then the RFA period will close. This will just speed things up, if there are a couple of RFAs no one wants to bid on (say someone threw out a guy just to get the compensation, so in all honesty he has no intention of matching, but no one else wants him at that level either), we can consider those guys closed and move on to the Rookie draft. Since we're already started, we can just see how things go I guess and look at this for next year.

[Preds]

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

Another thing I was going to propose, but now it is probably too late is to address this. As some may recall, at the end of each of the last two RFA periods, there has been only player that no one wanted to bid on, and we had to discuss if someone would just open the bidding so the team can match and then we can move on. With the new structure, that really isn't an option. I was thinking we could institure a rule where if it has been 48 hours since the close of the last open bidding thread (starting at the match or decline of that RFA), and no other RFA has been opened up for bidding, then the RFA period will close. This will just speed things up, if there are a couple of RFAs no one wants to bid on (say someone threw out a guy just to get the compensation, so in all honesty he has no intention of matching, but no one else wants him at that level either), we can consider those guys closed and move on to the Rookie draft. Since we're already started, we can just see how things go I guess and look at this for next year.

A good idea, we can discuss that for next year. This year I say play it by ear, if the RFA bidding slows to a halt and players are left (which I think there may be a few) then we can poll the league tis year to see if anyone intends to bid on these players, and if not, then close the RFA period up.

[Philadelphia Freedom]

A good idea, we can discuss that for next year. This year I say play it by ear, if the RFA bidding slows to a halt and players are left (which I think there may be a few) then we can poll the league tis year to see if anyone intends to bid on these players, and if not, then close the RFA period up.

This makes sense to me as it seems like this could drag on for a while. Of course it is not like there is any other league business to attend to. Actually, I take that back it could have an impact on the draft order if players are not matched. Maybe, we should consider something like Brian said to ensure that everyone knows who has what picks and the order.

[Royal Hawaiian Opihi]

I like the idea of a 48 hour "no bid" end to the RFA period... we could push it up to 72 hours, to account for people taking trips over long weekends. But I'm fine with the way we have it. I remember last year we were all itching to get the league moving, but it ended up fine with the time frame we've already established. It's not like we can push up the rookie draft or anything.

By the way, speaking of the rookie draft, there's a guy in my church who's got an outside chance to get drafted this year. His name is Joseph Siofele, and he's an ILB who played for the University of Arizona. He's been contacted by a couple of teams already (Raiders, Chargers & ???), but wasn't invited to the Combine... so he could very well be tendered a Free Agent offer at the end of the draft. Anyway, it's kinda cool to see how he's been doing (he was an all-state high school player in Hawaii, and was named the defensive MVP for UofA this past year). If he makes it, I could have an "inside source" in the fantasy world!

[Royal Hawaiian Opihi]

bump... please read the RFA rules again (first post in this thread) before starting to bid at midnight tonight.

[Burt the Butcher]

All you newbies, and fairly newbie....please read this and review for proper bidding criteria....

[Preds]

Burt, may not be a bad idea to give the new guys some RFA tips to.

for example, RFA is a completely different animal. If you truly want a player, the goal is to bid high enough so that the tendering team declines the match. Bidding the tender amount in most cases will result in an easy match.

Basically, whereas in UFA you want to bid as low as you can to win a guy, in RFA you bid much higher and generally overpay in order to make the match difficult on the tendering teams (like the Bills recently did in massively overpaying Charles Clay so Miami wouldn't or couldn't match).

Thus, IMO, don't start low with RFA's, bid much higher, maybe leave some wiggle room for your max if you expect competition for the bid, but otherwise don't pussyfoot around with low bids on RFA's as the tending team is much more likely to make an easy match and save CB's in the process.

[chasmvp19]

Did we decide on what to do with illegal bids?? Last year this happened and no decision was made other than to pipe up and tell the guy the next offer was too low. Is the illegal bid considered an actual offer for the player and thus increased automatically to be at the correct level or is it simply no longer in effect because it was not high enough? Just checking in case a mistake occurs and no one speaks up. (The example would be a bid of over 1000 that was only an increase of 10 instead of the minimum 20...this would be illegal and the time expired on the player - who wins and at what price is owner to match/decline at?)

[Royal Hawaiian Opihi]

People make mistakes... So it should be pointed out. It's still not a legal bid until it's the proper amount. This is a friendly league. If you notice an illegal bud, please say so.

[chasmvp19]

It goes against my competitive nature, but I understand and will comply...What I mean is that I am not as friendly to people/owners I am trying to crush...my team blows and I see I am at least a year away from even being competitive (frustrating)....I get it though...Thanks champ!

[Royal Hawaiian Opihi]

lol... you don't HAVE to identify when there's been an illegal bid. It will just save future headaches! lol

[Burt the Butcher]

Chuck, its just like playing on the felt...you have no problem taking someone's chips, but do it in a friendly and engaging manner...your play FF the same way so no issues here...

[A Zombie Pirate I Be]

Updated the initial bid process:
Subject line = Pos, Name, Team
And Message must include Initial bid amount

[Preds]

Originally Posted by A Zombie Pirate I Be

Updated the initial bid process:
Subject line = Pos, Name, Team
And Message must include Initial bid amount

Also any commentary on the bid must be on a separate line BELOW the bid amount

[Preds]

Originally Posted by A Zombie Pirate I Be

Updated the initial bid process:
Subject line = Pos, Name, Team
And Message must include Initial bid amount

Also any commentary on the bid must be on a separate line BELOW the bid amount

[A Zombie Pirate I Be]

Reminder - The Weekend UFA do not apply during RFA. So the 48 clock does not pause.

8. Players will be considered SOLD if a bid is not increased within 48 hours of the last bid.
(Note: Weekend rules do not apply during RFA bidding.)

9. The tendering team will have 72 hours from the timestamp of the winning bid to match the winning bid and retain the player at the winning bid price. The match (or decline) must be posted in the same thread where all the bidding occurred. If a match is not posted within the 72 hours, the player will be awarded to the highest bidding owner.