IR question

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · August 21st, 2018, 06:27 PM

I think I know the answer, but wanted to double check...

Rookie Deion Cain tore his ACL in preseason. He's going to be out for the year for Indy. I'm thinking about holding on to him as an IR designated player. If I read the rules correctly, I can put him directly on IR... and half of his salary plus however many years I assign him will count towards my TS/DS squad, with one roster year "given back" to me for use.

So my question is, next year, when he has to come of IR... I'm assuming I can put him back in the TS/DS without having to make him active, correct?

Bounty Hunter · August 21st, 2018, 08:51 PM

Does this thread set the precedence for this type of action?

http://predsff.com/forums/showthread...4&highlight=IR

Burt the Butcher · August 21st, 2018, 09:11 PM

I would agree that still holds true.. The IR is for players on injured onactive roster only

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · August 21st, 2018, 09:17 PM

Okay. Funny that I was the guy who asked the same question 10 years ago! lol
So we could put a rookie on IR... then "demote" him to the TS next year, as long as we take whatever the current cap penalty is that adds to his contract (5cbs/week active - which would amount to a 80cb addition for the next year). Is my math right?!

Bounty Hunter · August 22nd, 2018, 06:41 PM

My calculator say 5x14 = 70. So your math is correct if you play 2 playoff games.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · August 22nd, 2018, 07:12 PM

lol... forgot the Frenzy season ends in week 14... and I was going with a 16-game NFL season. Thanks!

Actually... that brings up a good point... do playoff games count for cbs? Don't know if we've ever addressed it.

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Originally Posted by Bounty Hunter

My calculator say 5x14 = 70. So your math is correct if you play 2 playoff games.

Bounty Hunter · August 22nd, 2018, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi

lol... forgot the Frenzy season ends in week 14... and I was going with a 16-game NFL season. Thanks!

Actually... that brings up a good point... do playoff games count for cbs? Don't know if we've ever addressed it.

Good point!! I may have a player this year that fits in that category, 14 regular season games and 1 play off game. So we need ruling on this.

Burt the Butcher · August 22nd, 2018, 08:41 PM

The rules speak to NFL games/weeks. So I would say 17 weeks bump if on Active roster/IR a full year. NFL playoffs should not count since not all teams are playing in playoffs

Bounty Hunter · August 22nd, 2018, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

The rules speak to NFL games/weeks. So I would say 17 weeks bump if on Active roster/IR a full year. NFL playoffs should not count since not all teams are playing in playoffs

I agree thats what the rules say. How does the last para of that section fit into this. It reads "Once a team?s roster has been frozen due to failing to reach the post season, or having been eliminated from the post season, bonus weeks will no longer accrue for activated players until the following regular season begins".

Burt the Butcher · August 23rd, 2018, 08:43 AM

I missed that part...so that implies if your team makes the playoffs, you have to pay for those weeks you have a playoff game.

I guess what I read means you pay a weeks bonus as soon as one NFL game starts for that week, and your player is active.

Now it seems pretty clear.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · August 23rd, 2018, 01:39 PM

Well there we go. Thanks, all.

Bounty Hunter · August 23rd, 2018, 02:18 PM

Just thought of another situation. What about double headers? Its one week but 2 games. I would think the intent would be this is 2 games played.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · August 23rd, 2018, 07:48 PM

Hmmm... according to the letter of the law, it says "NFL games/weeks"... which is different from Frenzy games/weeks. I'd say it's just 1 week of cbs. But I'll take others' interpretations before a declaratory statement from the commish.

Burt the Butcher · August 23rd, 2018, 07:58 PM

That rule was written before we started doing double headers...I would say it should be number of games your team played....and a week is official once first NFL game kickoff happens.
Say you activate your player before your double header, and he scores in 2 games for you, then you move him back to TS. He should only get a one game bump?

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · August 24th, 2018, 12:39 PM

Good point. I was only going by what the rule said. Makes sense to change it to Frenzy games.

August 21st, 2018, 06:27 PM	#1
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	IR question I think I know the answer, but wanted to double check... Rookie Deion Cain tore his ACL in preseason. He's going to be out for the year for Indy. I'm thinking about holding on to him as an IR designated player. If I read the rules correctly, I can put him directly on IR... and half of his salary plus however many years I assign him will count towards my TS/DS squad, with one roster year "given back" to me for use. So my question is, next year, when he has to come of IR... I'm assuming I can put him back in the TS/DS without having to make him active, correct?

August 21st, 2018, 08:51 PM	#2
Bounty Hunter Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 6,845	Re: IR question Does this thread set the precedence for this type of action? http://predsff.com/forums/showthread...4&highlight=IR

August 21st, 2018, 09:11 PM	#3
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: IR question I would agree that still holds true.. The IR is for players on injured onactive roster only __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

August 21st, 2018, 09:17 PM	#4
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: IR question Okay. Funny that I was the guy who asked the same question 10 years ago! lol So we could put a rookie on IR... then "demote" him to the TS next year, as long as we take whatever the current cap penalty is that adds to his contract (5cbs/week active - which would amount to a 80cb addition for the next year). Is my math right?!

August 22nd, 2018, 06:41 PM	#5
Bounty Hunter Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 6,845	Re: IR question My calculator say 5x14 = 70. So your math is correct if you play 2 playoff games.

August 22nd, 2018, 08:41 PM	#8
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: IR question The rules speak to NFL games/weeks. So I would say 17 weeks bump if on Active roster/IR a full year. NFL playoffs should not count since not all teams are playing in playoffs __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

August 23rd, 2018, 08:43 AM	#10
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: IR question I missed that part...so that implies if your team makes the playoffs, you have to pay for those weeks you have a playoff game. I guess what I read means you pay a weeks bonus as soon as one NFL game starts for that week, and your player is active. Now it seems pretty clear. __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

August 23rd, 2018, 01:39 PM	#11
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: IR question Well there we go. Thanks, all.

August 23rd, 2018, 02:18 PM	#12
Bounty Hunter Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 6,845	Re: IR question Just thought of another situation. What about double headers? Its one week but 2 games. I would think the intent would be this is 2 games played.

August 23rd, 2018, 07:48 PM	#13
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: IR question Hmmm... according to the letter of the law, it says "NFL games/weeks"... which is different from Frenzy games/weeks. I'd say it's just 1 week of cbs. But I'll take others' interpretations before a declaratory statement from the commish.

August 23rd, 2018, 07:58 PM	#14
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: IR question That rule was written before we started doing double headers...I would say it should be number of games your team played....and a week is official once first NFL game kickoff happens. Say you activate your player before your double header, and he scores in 2 games for you, then you move him back to TS. He should only get a one game bump? __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

August 24th, 2018, 12:39 PM	#15
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: IR question Good point. I was only going by what the rule said. Makes sense to change it to Frenzy games.

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