PASSES 10-2 EXTEND TRADE DEADLINE UNTIL MIDNIGHT week 13

Preds · November 23rd, 2016, 02:05 PM

Until I saw Burt's Leveon Bell post I thought the deadline was midnight, as did other teams. Rules apparently say noon.

At least 1 deal was agreed upon after this before realizing the rules state otherwise. Vote now and if unanimous we can extend the deadline until midnight.

I'd also suggest moving the deadline back a week to week 13 now that we've extended the season to 14 weeks. Traditionally our deadline has been the week prior to the final regular season week. With our season now 14 weeks that should be week 13 not 12.

MUST BE UNANIMOUS TO PASS FOR THIS SEASON, if not unanimous the rule can still pass for next season with a majority vote.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · November 23rd, 2016, 02:08 PM

I think week 13 seems a reasonable change.

Preds · November 23rd, 2016, 02:19 PM

Moving to week 13 also moves us away from the Thanksgiving holiday as well which IMO is another plus now that the season is 14 weeks.

Liquid Swords · November 23rd, 2016, 02:22 PM

Deadline has always been noon so the 24 hour review period completes before Thursday games. There's been plenty of time to work out trades. I'm up for discussion next year, but not this. Sorry.

Preds · November 23rd, 2016, 02:24 PM

Vote still applies for next year if it passes.

Preds · November 23rd, 2016, 02:26 PM

Also the noon deadline is silly for Thursday games that involve 2 teams. The deadline can still be midnight, the 24 hour rule would just mean players involved in games before midnight on Thursday would be ineligible to play that week if the deal was consummated after the start of their game.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · November 23rd, 2016, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preds

The deadline can still be midnight, the 24 hour rule would just mean players involved in games before midnight on Thursday would be ineligible to play that week if the deal was consummated after the start of their game.

Very good point.

Preds · November 23rd, 2016, 04:42 PM

Although Pat has chosen a dissenting vote, just 1 more vote is required for this to pass for future seasons. And if it's 11-1 who knows, maybe Pat will reconsider (doubt it, but hey, it is a happy time of year)!

Yet to vote:

Killer Bees
Freedom
Scorpions
Cards

Liquid Swords · November 23rd, 2016, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preds

And if it's 11-1 who knows, maybe Pat will reconsider (doubt it, but hey, it is a happy time of year)!

Possibility

Preds · November 23rd, 2016, 05:26 PM

Llamas vote in favor and emailed a request to proxy vote for him

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Richard Manz
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Gents, I'm in favor, but unable to log into site. Could someone proxy for me on site? Thanks

Preds · November 23rd, 2016, 10:15 PM

This rule change is passed for 2017 and beyond. Though we still need votes from:

Killer Bees
Freedom
Scorpions
Cards

If it's 11-1 after everyone's voted, Pat said it's a possibility he might consider his dissenting vote to make it unanimous and effective this year and extending the deadline to next week Wednesday at midnight, 1 week prior to our final week of regular season games, which is how we've always had the deadline for all 15 years of the Frenzy.

predator06 · November 24th, 2016, 12:32 PM

Here how I feel...

If I understand correctly, rule changes can be voted on for next year unless unanimous, then they take effect immediately?

It's kind of frustrating to see an emergency vote for this, but the Montgomery issue was just changed without a vote. The rules clearly state the teams depth chart. If that was to be changed we should have done the same thing as this vote and would have likely not been unanimous either way and would have been changed next year

That being said, I'm indifferent about this.

Preds · November 27th, 2016, 11:12 PM

Motion passes 10-2 and will take effect in 2017.

Liquid Swords · December 5th, 2016, 03:24 PM

One suggestion when writing this into the rules for next season:

Instead of stating it as "Week 13," we should state it as "Wednesday at midnight, 1 week prior to the final week of regular season games." This way if we ever switch back to a 16 week season including playoffs, then we won't need to adjust it back to a specific week.

Preds · December 5th, 2016, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid Swords

One suggestion when writing this into the rules for next season:

Instead of stating it as "Week 13," we should state it as "Wednesday at midnight, 1 week prior to the final week of regular season games." This way if we ever switch back to a 16 week season including playoffs, then we won't need to adjust it back to a specific week.

I agree. Good point as that is the intent of the rule change and solves it permanently.

November 23rd, 2016, 02:05 PM	#1
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	PASSES 10-2 EXTEND TRADE DEADLINE UNTIL MIDNIGHT week 13 Until I saw Burt's Leveon Bell post I thought the deadline was midnight, as did other teams. Rules apparently say noon. At least 1 deal was agreed upon after this before realizing the rules state otherwise. Vote now and if unanimous we can extend the deadline until midnight. I'd also suggest moving the deadline back a week to week 13 now that we've extended the season to 14 weeks. Traditionally our deadline has been the week prior to the final regular season week. With our season now 14 weeks that should be week 13 not 12. MUST BE UNANIMOUS TO PASS FOR THIS SEASON, if not unanimous the rule can still pass for next season with a majority vote. __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823 Last edited by Preds; November 27th, 2016 at 11:10 PM.

November 23rd, 2016, 02:08 PM	#2
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: EMERGENCY VOTE- EXTEND TRADE DEADLINE UNTIL MIDNIGHT week 13 Must be Unanimous I think week 13 seems a reasonable change.

November 23rd, 2016, 02:19 PM	#3
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: EMERGENCY VOTE- EXTEND TRADE DEADLINE UNTIL MIDNIGHT week 13 Must be Unanimous Moving to week 13 also moves us away from the Thanksgiving holiday as well which IMO is another plus now that the season is 14 weeks. __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

November 23rd, 2016, 02:22 PM	#4
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	Re: EMERGENCY VOTE- EXTEND TRADE DEADLINE UNTIL MIDNIGHT week 13 Must be Unanimous Deadline has always been noon so the 24 hour review period completes before Thursday games. There's been plenty of time to work out trades. I'm up for discussion next year, but not this. Sorry.

November 23rd, 2016, 02:24 PM	#5
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: EMERGENCY VOTE- EXTEND TRADE DEADLINE UNTIL MIDNIGHT week 13 Must be Unanimous Vote still applies for next year if it passes. __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

November 23rd, 2016, 02:26 PM	#6
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: EMERGENCY VOTE- EXTEND TRADE DEADLINE UNTIL MIDNIGHT week 13 Must be Unanimous Also the noon deadline is silly for Thursday games that involve 2 teams. The deadline can still be midnight, the 24 hour rule would just mean players involved in games before midnight on Thursday would be ineligible to play that week if the deal was consummated after the start of their game. __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

November 23rd, 2016, 04:42 PM	#8
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: EMERGENCY VOTE- EXTEND TRADE DEADLINE UNTIL MIDNIGHT week 13 Although Pat has chosen a dissenting vote, just 1 more vote is required for this to pass for future seasons. And if it's 11-1 who knows, maybe Pat will reconsider (doubt it, but hey, it is a happy time of year)! Yet to vote: Killer Bees Freedom Scorpions Cards __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823 Last edited by Preds; November 23rd, 2016 at 10:09 PM.

November 23rd, 2016, 10:15 PM	#11
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: EMERGENCY VOTE- EXTEND TRADE DEADLINE UNTIL MIDNIGHT week 13 This rule change is passed for 2017 and beyond. Though we still need votes from: Killer Bees Freedom Scorpions Cards If it's 11-1 after everyone's voted, Pat said it's a possibility he might consider his dissenting vote to make it unanimous and effective this year and extending the deadline to next week Wednesday at midnight, 1 week prior to our final week of regular season games, which is how we've always had the deadline for all 15 years of the Frenzy. __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

November 24th, 2016, 12:32 PM	#12
predator06 Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 1,206	Re: EMERGENCY VOTE- EXTEND TRADE DEADLINE UNTIL MIDNIGHT week 13 Here how I feel... If I understand correctly, rule changes can be voted on for next year unless unanimous, then they take effect immediately? It's kind of frustrating to see an emergency vote for this, but the Montgomery issue was just changed without a vote. The rules clearly state the teams depth chart. If that was to be changed we should have done the same thing as this vote and would have likely not been unanimous either way and would have been changed next year That being said, I'm indifferent about this.

November 27th, 2016, 11:12 PM	#13
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: PASSES 10-2 EXTEND TRADE DEADLINE UNTIL MIDNIGHT week 13 Motion passes 10-2 and will take effect in 2017. __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

December 5th, 2016, 03:24 PM	#14
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	Re: PASSES 10-2 EXTEND TRADE DEADLINE UNTIL MIDNIGHT week 13 One suggestion when writing this into the rules for next season: Instead of stating it as "Week 13," we should state it as "Wednesday at midnight, 1 week prior to the final week of regular season games." This way if we ever switch back to a 16 week season including playoffs, then we won't need to adjust it back to a specific week.

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