Liquid Swords acquire RB Ricky Williams from the Predators

Preds · June 2nd, 2005, 09:23 AM

Rasta boy Ricky Williams and his 4 year 165cb contract have been acquired by the Swords in a conditional, incentive based deal.

If Ricky finishes in top 15 RB's in 2005 (based on avg pts with a minimum of 8 games played by all players), the Predators will receive both of the Swords current 1st rounders in 2006 (their own and the pick they acquired from the Insects).

If Ricky finishes in the 16-20 range among RB's in 2005 (based on avg pts with a minimum of 8 games played by all players), the Predators will receive the Swords best 1st rd pick and either their best 2nd or 1st rd comp if the Swords recieve one in 2006.

If Ricky finishes in the 21-25 range among RB's in 2005 (based on avg pts with a minimum of 8 games played by all players), the Predators will receive the Swords best 1st round pick they have in 2006.

If Ricky finishes in the 26-30 range among RB's in 2005 (based on avg pts with a minimum of 8 games played by all players), the Predators will receive the Swords 2nd 1st rounder.

Finally, if Ricky finishes in the 31+ range among RB's in 2005 (based on avg pts with a minimum of 8 games played by all players), the Predators will receive the Swords best 2nd round pick (if they end up with more than 1 2nd rounder).

Nittany Dodgers · June 2nd, 2005, 09:46 AM

So, the Swords have tied up 4 1st and 2nd round picks for this deal? And if Rickey never sees the field, the Swords give up a high 2nd rounder? Is that what I am to understand?

Liquid Swords · June 2nd, 2005, 11:32 AM

confirmed

Brain Dead Squirrel Chasers · June 2nd, 2005, 01:40 PM

No way Ricky makes an impact this year. BUT there's no way I'd risk 2 first rounders, even if its 0.01% likely to happen. Just not worth the risk.

Liquid Swords · June 2nd, 2005, 01:50 PM

worth it to me

....or are we just jealous

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · June 2nd, 2005, 02:14 PM

Gee... and I thought the deal we were working out for Charles Rodgers was tricky!?

Preds · June 2nd, 2005, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi

Gee... and I thought the deal we were working out for Charles Rodgers was tricky!?

Y, not my 1st choice with all the conditionals (in fact you know I'm not fond of them), but in RW's case, and at that super low salary it made the most sense to leverage the risk for both sides.

For the most part, Pat came up with the creative mix of this deal.

Philadelphia Freedom · June 3rd, 2005, 05:50 PM

What risk did you leverage Mike? You have little to no downside that I see.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · June 3rd, 2005, 06:14 PM

Mike's "risk" is that nagging voice in his head that says he could possibly get more for Ricky if he waits until Ricky actually does come back...
:bling

Preds · January 2nd, 2006, 12:52 AM

Ricky played damn well down the stretch, and just missed a Top 25 finish in average points among RB's playing 8 games or more.

He finished at 26th http://frenzy.predsff.com/2005/Stats9.html and as such, means the Predators will get the Liquid Swords 2nd 1st round pick in the 2006 Rookie Draft, which will be pick #8. The Swords will hang onto the Insects pick (which is still to be debated for the proper slot, but will be anywhere from 5-7).

Anyhow, pending what happens in the off-season, this looks like a win-win deal to me, as Ricky could be a huge value for under 200 cb's for the next 2-3 years, a definate asset to the Swords.

I get the #8 pick for Ricky in return, no complaints on my end, though I hope I can do something decent with the pick.

June 2nd, 2005, 09:23 AM	#1
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Liquid Swords acquire RB Ricky Williams from the Predators Rasta boy Ricky Williams and his 4 year 165cb contract have been acquired by the Swords in a conditional, incentive based deal. If Ricky finishes in top 15 RB's in 2005 (based on avg pts with a minimum of 8 games played by all players), the Predators will receive both of the Swords current 1st rounders in 2006 (their own and the pick they acquired from the Insects). If Ricky finishes in the 16-20 range among RB's in 2005 (based on avg pts with a minimum of 8 games played by all players), the Predators will receive the Swords best 1st rd pick and either their best 2nd or 1st rd comp if the Swords recieve one in 2006. If Ricky finishes in the 21-25 range among RB's in 2005 (based on avg pts with a minimum of 8 games played by all players), the Predators will receive the Swords best 1st round pick they have in 2006. If Ricky finishes in the 26-30 range among RB's in 2005 (based on avg pts with a minimum of 8 games played by all players), the Predators will receive the Swords 2nd 1st rounder. Finally, if Ricky finishes in the 31+ range among RB's in 2005 (based on avg pts with a minimum of 8 games played by all players), the Predators will receive the Swords best 2nd round pick (if they end up with more than 1 2nd rounder). __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823 Last edited by Preds; June 2nd, 2005 at 10:03 AM.

June 2nd, 2005, 09:46 AM	#2
Nittany Dodgers Feeding Frenzy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Maplewood, MN Posts: 5,204	Re: Liquid Swords acquire RB Ricky Williams from the Predators So, the Swords have tied up 4 1st and 2nd round picks for this deal? And if Rickey never sees the field, the Swords give up a high 2nd rounder? Is that what I am to understand?

June 2nd, 2005, 11:32 AM	#3
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	Re: Liquid Swords acquire RB Ricky Williams from the Predators confirmed

June 2nd, 2005, 01:40 PM	#4
Brain Dead Squirrel Chasers Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 946	Re: Liquid Swords acquire RB Ricky Williams from the Predators No way Ricky makes an impact this year. BUT there's no way I'd risk 2 first rounders, even if its 0.01% likely to happen. Just not worth the risk.

June 2nd, 2005, 01:50 PM	#5
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	Re: Liquid Swords acquire RB Ricky Williams from the Predators worth it to me ....or are we just jealous Last edited by Liquid Swords; June 2nd, 2005 at 01:59 PM.

June 2nd, 2005, 02:14 PM	#6
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: Liquid Swords acquire RB Ricky Williams from the Predators Gee... and I thought the deal we were working out for Charles Rodgers was tricky!?

June 3rd, 2005, 05:50 PM	#8
Philadelphia Freedom Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Posts: 6,270	Re: Liquid Swords acquire RB Ricky Williams from the Predators What risk did you leverage Mike? You have little to no downside that I see.

June 3rd, 2005, 06:14 PM	#9
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 16,604	Re: Liquid Swords acquire RB Ricky Williams from the Predators Mike's "risk" is that nagging voice in his head that says he could possibly get more for Ricky if he waits until Ricky actually does come back... :bling

January 2nd, 2006, 12:52 AM	#10
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: Liquid Swords acquire RB Ricky Williams from the Predators Ricky played damn well down the stretch, and just missed a Top 25 finish in average points among RB's playing 8 games or more. He finished at 26th http://frenzy.predsff.com/2005/Stats9.html and as such, means the Predators will get the Liquid Swords 2nd 1st round pick in the 2006 Rookie Draft, which will be pick #8. The Swords will hang onto the Insects pick (which is still to be debated for the proper slot, but will be anywhere from 5-7). Anyhow, pending what happens in the off-season, this looks like a win-win deal to me, as Ricky could be a huge value for under 200 cb's for the next 2-3 years, a definate asset to the Swords. I get the #8 pick for Ricky in return, no complaints on my end, though I hope I can do something decent with the pick. __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

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