Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

Mike put Bullocks on the IR in SAC'D. What's his injury status? That might be a precedent. Personally, unless there's been a published report of a player being placed on IR, I'm not sure how we could place players on our IR until the official injury reports come out for week 1.

Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi

Yah, here's the gray area. A player only has to be listed as questionable for an upcoming week's game to be put on our IR. It isn't connected to an official NFL IR designation (though, in Mike's case, Bullocks does have that).

So... that's why I was wondering about Portis.

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

Later, the IR rules state "The 1st available date to list a player on IR is Monday, August 29, 2005at 12:00am - this will be a flexible date each year that basically commences the day after the 3rd pre-season games end (4th for the few teams that play 5). This will be approximately 7-10 days before the NFL regular season kicks off."

I'm not sure why this is listed as the first date available to place a player on IR when that is far in advance of when the first official injury reports come out.
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Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher

That date just coincides with the end of the Off-Season, or the beginning of In-Season activities. You can't place anyone on the IR to get cap relief until the In-Season period begins.

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

I understand that, but wouldn't it have made more sense to just say the first date the IR was open was the date of the week 1 injury report?

Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi

Yes, I'd think so. Unless the sole reason was to allow for players who are already on the PUP or IR report.

I think the "spirit of the rule" is that Portis should NOT be ellible at this point. Once the week one injury report comes out, however, that's a different story.

And yes, Matt, I was aware of the time factor in taking a player off of IR.

Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi

You can make a claim on Portis and save me the cap hit!!!

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers

The rules aren't clear, and in my opinion contradict themselves when it comes to IR. First, the rules state "For a player to be put on IR he must be listed as Questionable, Doubtful or Out on any NFL.com weekly injury reports."

Later, the IR rules state "The 1st available date to list a player on IR is Monday, August 29, 2005at 12:00am - this will be a flexible date each year that basically commences the day after the 3rd pre-season games end (4th for the few teams that play 5). This will be approximately 7-10 days before the NFL regular season kicks off."

I'm not sure why this is listed as the first date available to place a player on IR when that is far in advance of when the first official injury reports come out.

My opinion/reading, is that there are exceptions to the "official injury report" requirement, for things such as players already placed on IR, players placed on the PUP list who are inelligible to come off until week 6, or other clear cut situations that fall outside of the realm of the official injury report. These would make the second section I quoted meaningful.

However, I wasn't around when the IR language was drafted, so I don't know where it came from or what the intent was.