2003 Rookie Draft COMMENTARY

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · May 20th, 2003, 04:45 PM

Gotta have a place to talk smack about each others' picks! :p

Waiting on Matt....

Philadelphia Freedom · May 21st, 2003, 08:08 AM

It's on!!

May 21st, 2003, 09:13 AM

Glad you got your man! Bring on the project.

Preds · May 21st, 2003, 09:18 AM

I tried hard to move up and snag Willis McGahee, offering 3 picks at one point (including both of my #1's) to both Matt at 1.1 and the Llamas at 1.2.

I think he's a 3 yr project (2 on the DS) before he earnes his salary.

My view on the Bills RB situation has Willis sitting out the year on IR, then splitting carries with Henry in 2004 as he learns the ropes in the NFL. In 2005, I expect the Bills to trade Henry (who will still be under contract) and give Willis the Feature Back role (assuming he's comeback from the injury).

Good pick, high risk, but their could be a huge reward for you in a few years. You'll just have to be very patient with him.

Nittany Dodgers · May 21st, 2003, 09:55 AM

I don't think he's going to have to wait as long for Willis. He blew his knee out so early in the year, I think he'll be full speed by camp next year. They might keep Henry around for insurance, but I could also see them trading him for a couple of early picks if his stock is still high. They have plenty of mediocre depth behind Henry that they don't need him once McGahee is ready, and why waste having both of them while Henry gets another year older, when you could possible get a couple of #1 like New Orleans did. Of course if Henry has an off year, and his stock drops, they might be more inclined to keep him. But also, if this happens, they'll be less inclined to work McGahee in slowly. That's my read anyway.

Brain Dead Squirrel Chasers · May 21st, 2003, 12:30 PM

You gotta love Maghee. Talk about big risk, but the payoff could be enormous. Just think of this pick as the #1 overall pick of 2004. I'll personally be rooting for Magahee.

Preds · May 21st, 2003, 01:50 PM

You f**k'r Matt!!! I had a press conference all written up for Byron!!!

Aargh!!!

Of course, you did leave a very talented player sitting there for me

... anyone want to move up now?

Nittany Dodgers · May 22nd, 2003, 10:20 AM

The Dodgers are aware they are on the clock. We should be making an anouncement (either deal or a pick) within an hour or two.

Nittany Dodgers · May 22nd, 2003, 01:00 PM

Well, it's a little reassuring that if I hadn't gone with the complete homerism pick, my second choice was agreed upon by another team.

Nice pick with Brown, Jake.

Mutts · May 22nd, 2003, 01:02 PM

Thanks. I'm in complete shock, actually. I hadn't even included Brown on my draft board... didn't think I had a shot.

Preds · May 22nd, 2003, 01:03 PM

I seriously considered Brown at 1.5... I just couldn't let a talent like Andre Johnson who will all but be handed the starting job with an up and coming QB slide any further and took who was IMO the best player available.

Nittany Dodgers · May 22nd, 2003, 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by Wonder Mutts
Thanks. I'm in complete shock, actually. I hadn't even included Brown on my draft board... didn't think I had a shot.

Is that the polite version of Mel Kipper's "It's obvious that the NY Jets have no idea what the draft is all about."

Mutts · May 22nd, 2003, 01:20 PM

lol

:toast:

Brain Dead Squirrel Chasers · May 22nd, 2003, 02:09 PM

Mel Kiper Jr.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · May 22nd, 2003, 04:18 PM

Gee... is it Mike's pick again? I thought it was the Insects, but based on the long pause, I've gotta believe Mike's got something to do with it! :p ;) :p

PS. Hard to tell it's getting close to my first pick, yah! lol

Preds · May 22nd, 2003, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi
Gee... is it Mike's pick again? I thought it was the Insects, but based on the long pause, I've gotta believe Mike's got something to do with it! :p ;) :p

PS. Hard to tell it's getting close to my first pick, yah! lol

I love how I get blamed when I have nothing to do with holding things up :p

. Relax and have a :Alcoholic my friend, I'm sure the Insects will make a pick soon!

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · May 22nd, 2003, 04:55 PM

Was hoping that would get some kind of response from you, Mike... boards are slow today!

Flaxwless · May 22nd, 2003, 04:58 PM

Make a pick now!

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · May 22nd, 2003, 05:07 PM

Pick is in... Mike's on the clock... look out league!!!

Flaxwless · May 22nd, 2003, 05:08 PM

at Mike!

Great pick Jim!

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · May 22nd, 2003, 05:16 PM

Thanks... I had Palmer and Boller as #1 and #2 on my short list... then about 6 RB/WRs that I would have liked to have acquired, but not this high in the draft. I saw everyone except Palmer as mid-second round material (at least salary wise). Now I'm off the board until round three... where I get to pick up scraps from the "leftovers" of the draft.

INTERESTING NOTE: In actuality, this pick of Palmer becomes basically a straight up "Palmer for WR Curtis Conway" trade (how I originally acquired the pick from the Freedom). I can live with that!

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · May 22nd, 2003, 05:25 PM

Mike... sorry about the Palmer thing (not really!)... but I think O-Smith is a good addition to your squad, especially with Bennett. I, too, loved how he proclaimed himself the "steal of the draft." Should be fun to watch how he develops!

Nittany Dodgers · May 22nd, 2003, 05:27 PM

Onterrio is a good handcuff to Bennett. If Bennett get into many more shootouts (literraly) then maybe he'll be usefull sooner rather than later. 5'10", though? Not unless he's wearing 1 1/2 inch spikes.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · May 22nd, 2003, 05:30 PM

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5'10", though? Not unless he's wearing 1 1/2 inch spikes.

Interesting... the SPORTING NEWS has him listed as 5'11"...while All Pro Scouting Service has him as 5'9". Hmm... maybe that comment about high heels wasn't too far off?

Nittany Dodgers · May 22nd, 2003, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi

Interesting... the SPORTING NEWS has him listed as 5'11"...while All Pro Scouting Service has him as 5'9". Hmm... maybe that comment about high heels wasn't too far off?

I didn't mean to insult his masculinity that he would be wearing heals. I meant if he was wearing long cleats, but I guess either way would work.

I read somewhere that he was a stretch at the 5' 9" listing, but I don't remember the source.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · May 22nd, 2003, 05:47 PM

I'm sure he's a "man's man." Question is, will he produce? For his sake, I hope he gets his shot... for Mike's sake, a resounding "I HOPE NOT!!!"
:p

Preds · May 22nd, 2003, 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi
Mike... sorry about the Palmer thing (not really!)... but I think O-Smith is a good addition to your squad, especially with Bennett. I, too, loved how he proclaimed himself the "steal of the draft." Should be fun to watch how he develops!

The kicker is, I came REAL close to trading up ahead of you 1 slot to take Palmer by giving up my 2 #2's since I was surprised he was still stitting out there... but I have other players I want in the 2nd and didn't pull the trigger on a deal since I think those picks have very good value in this draft, so I couldn't do it.

In retrospect, I wish I would have given up the picks, I could have snagged Palmer at 1.9, let you take Boller at 1.10, and still would have gotten my targeted player Onterrio Smith at 1.11.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · May 22nd, 2003, 06:35 PM

Might have worked for you, Mike... however, if Palmer wasn't available to me at 1.10, I might have entertained an offer to trade down... so who knows... gotta love the art of the draft, though!

May 22nd, 2003, 09:49 PM

I know I'm on the clock. Just waiting to see if a trade comes through. If not, I'll make a pick 1st thing in the morning.

Preds · May 23rd, 2003, 02:44 PM

Where are the Insects? The big debate over in the Griffin thread has me drooling for the next pick so we can move on!!

Let's just say there is a difference of opinion on the kid, I personally like him and took him in the early 3rd in my other cap league (granted that was to handcuff him to Portis)... I would have considered him at 2.5 myself if I hadn't traded down before the pick.

May 21st, 2003, 09:18 AM	#4
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,123	I tried hard to move up and snag Willis McGahee, offering 3 picks at one point (including both of my #1's) to both Matt at 1.1 and the Llamas at 1.2. I think he's a 3 yr project (2 on the DS) before he earnes his salary. My view on the Bills RB situation has Willis sitting out the year on IR, then splitting carries with Henry in 2004 as he learns the ropes in the NFL. In 2005, I expect the Bills to trade Henry (who will still be under contract) and give Willis the Feature Back role (assuming he's comeback from the injury). Good pick, high risk, but their could be a huge reward for you in a few years. You'll just have to be very patient with him. __________________ 4x Frenzy Champs! 2003, 2005, 2013 & 2022* ( co-champs with Roosters)* Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

May 21st, 2003, 01:50 PM	#7
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,123	You fk'r Matt!!! I had a press conference all written up for Byron!!! Aargh!!! Of course, you did leave a very talented player sitting there for me ... anyone want to move up now? __________________ 4x Frenzy Champs! 2003, 2005, 2013 & 2022*** ( co-champs with Roosters)* Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

May 22nd, 2003, 01:03 PM	#11
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,123	I seriously considered Brown at 1.5... I just couldn't let a talent like Andre Johnson who will all but be handed the starting job with an up and coming QB slide any further and took who was IMO the best player available. __________________ 4x Frenzy Champs! 2003, 2005, 2013 & 2022* ( co-champs with Roosters)* Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

May 22nd, 2003, 04:58 PM	#18
Flaxwless Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 6,050	Make a pick now! __________________ Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects - 1st EVER Feeding Frenzy Champion Bay Area Bloodsuckers 2008 SAC'D Champions - 2nd Worst to First in Year! 2011 SAC'D Champions - #5 seed, # 2 power rankings, #1 in the end!

May 22nd, 2003, 05:08 PM	#20
Flaxwless Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 6,050	at Mike! Great pick Jim! __________________ Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects - 1st EVER Feeding Frenzy Champion Bay Area Bloodsuckers 2008 SAC'D Champions - 2nd Worst to First in Year! 2011 SAC'D Champions - #5 seed, # 2 power rankings, #1 in the end!

May 20th, 2003, 04:45 PM	#1
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 15,366	2003 Rookie Draft COMMENTARY Gotta have a place to talk smack about each others' picks! :p Waiting on Matt....

May 21st, 2003, 08:08 AM	#2
Philadelphia Freedom Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Posts: 6,098	The party has started! It's on!!

May 21st, 2003, 09:13 AM	#3
RABID LLAMAS Guest Posts: n/a	Glad you got your man! Bring on the project.

May 21st, 2003, 09:55 AM	#5
Nittany Dodgers Feeding Frenzy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Maplewood, MN Posts: 5,204	I don't think he's going to have to wait as long for Willis. He blew his knee out so early in the year, I think he'll be full speed by camp next year. They might keep Henry around for insurance, but I could also see them trading him for a couple of early picks if his stock is still high. They have plenty of mediocre depth behind Henry that they don't need him once McGahee is ready, and why waste having both of them while Henry gets another year older, when you could possible get a couple of #1 like New Orleans did. Of course if Henry has an off year, and his stock drops, they might be more inclined to keep him. But also, if this happens, they'll be less inclined to work McGahee in slowly. That's my read anyway.

May 21st, 2003, 12:30 PM	#6
Brain Dead Squirrel Chasers Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 946	You gotta love Maghee. Talk about big risk, but the payoff could be enormous. Just think of this pick as the #1 overall pick of 2004. I'll personally be rooting for Magahee.

May 22nd, 2003, 10:20 AM	#8
Nittany Dodgers Feeding Frenzy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Maplewood, MN Posts: 5,204	The Dodgers are aware they are on the clock. We should be making an anouncement (either deal or a pick) within an hour or two.

May 22nd, 2003, 01:00 PM	#9
Nittany Dodgers Feeding Frenzy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Maplewood, MN Posts: 5,204	Well, it's a little reassuring that if I hadn't gone with the complete homerism pick, my second choice was agreed upon by another team. Nice pick with Brown, Jake.

May 22nd, 2003, 01:02 PM	#10
Mutts General Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bloomington, Indiana Posts: 3,026	Thanks. I'm in complete shock, actually. I hadn't even included Brown on my draft board... didn't think I had a shot.

May 22nd, 2003, 01:20 PM	#13
Mutts General Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bloomington, Indiana Posts: 3,026	lol :toast:

May 22nd, 2003, 02:09 PM	#14
Brain Dead Squirrel Chasers Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 946	Mel Kiper Jr.

May 22nd, 2003, 04:18 PM	#15
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 15,366	Gee... is it Mike's pick again? I thought it was the Insects, but based on the long pause, I've gotta believe Mike's got something to do with it! :p ;) :p PS. Hard to tell it's getting close to my first pick, yah! lol

May 22nd, 2003, 04:55 PM	#17
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 15,366	Was hoping that would get some kind of response from you, Mike... boards are slow today!

May 22nd, 2003, 05:07 PM	#19
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 15,366	Pick is in... Mike's on the clock... look out league!!!

May 22nd, 2003, 05:16 PM	#21
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 15,366	Thanks... I had Palmer and Boller as #1 and #2 on my short list... then about 6 RB/WRs that I would have liked to have acquired, but not this high in the draft. I saw everyone except Palmer as mid-second round material (at least salary wise). Now I'm off the board until round three... where I get to pick up scraps from the "leftovers" of the draft. INTERESTING NOTE: In actuality, this pick of Palmer becomes basically a straight up "Palmer for WR Curtis Conway" trade (how I originally acquired the pick from the Freedom). I can live with that! Last edited by Royal Hawaiian Opihi; May 22nd, 2003 at 05:17 PM.

May 22nd, 2003, 05:25 PM	#22
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 15,366	Mike... sorry about the Palmer thing (not really!)... but I think O-Smith is a good addition to your squad, especially with Bennett. I, too, loved how he proclaimed himself the "steal of the draft." Should be fun to watch how he develops!

May 22nd, 2003, 05:27 PM	#23
Nittany Dodgers Feeding Frenzy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Maplewood, MN Posts: 5,204	Onterrio is a good handcuff to Bennett. If Bennett get into many more shootouts (literraly) then maybe he'll be usefull sooner rather than later. 5'10", though? Not unless he's wearing 1 1/2 inch spikes.

May 22nd, 2003, 05:47 PM	#26
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 15,366	I'm sure he's a "man's man." Question is, will he produce? For his sake, I hope he gets his shot... for Mike's sake, a resounding "I HOPE NOT!!!" :p

May 22nd, 2003, 06:35 PM	#28
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 15,366	Might have worked for you, Mike... however, if Palmer wasn't available to me at 1.10, I might have entertained an offer to trade down... so who knows... gotta love the art of the draft, though!

May 22nd, 2003, 09:49 PM	#29
RABID LLAMAS Guest Posts: n/a	I know I'm on the clock. Just waiting to see if a trade comes through. If not, I'll make a pick 1st thing in the morning.

May 23rd, 2003, 02:44 PM	#30
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,123	Where are the Insects? The big debate over in the Griffin thread has me drooling for the next pick so we can move on!! Let's just say there is a difference of opinion on the kid, I personally like him and took him in the early 3rd in my other cap league (granted that was to handcuff him to Portis)... I would have considered him at 2.5 myself if I hadn't traded down before the pick. __________________ 4x Frenzy Champs! 2003, 2005, 2013 & 2022* ( co-champs with Roosters)* Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

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