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Poll: PASSES 7-5 Are you in favor of creating a Draft Seeding Bracket (DSB) as proposed in this revision?
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PASSES 7-5 Are you in favor of creating a Draft Seeding Bracket (DSB) as proposed in this revision?

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Old April 20th, 2022, 12:03 AM   #1
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Poll PASSES 7-5 - REVISED Proposal - Bottom 6 Draft Seeding Bracket (DSB) for the 1st 6 draft picks

This is a REVISION of my original proposal that would create a Draft Seeding Bracket (DSB) composed of the 6 non-playoff teams that will occur after the regular season during weeks 15-17 of the NFL season. This revision puts some curbs in place so that no team can move up or down more than 3 picks. In fact since BYES will be granted to the teams with the 12th and 11th best records. these 2 teams will not drop out of the top 3-4 picks as they can drop no more than 2 slots in the draft.

DSB Seeding will be as follows:
  • 1 seed - non-playoff team with the 12th best record
  • 2 seed - non-playoff team with the 11th best record
  • 3 seed - non-playoff team with the 10th best record
  • 4 seed - non-playoff team with the 9th best record
  • 5 seed - non-playoff team with the 8th best record
  • 6 seed - non-playoff team with the 7th best record*
    *6th seed will have been eliminated from playoffs due to fewer All Play wins
Tie-breakers for seeding the Draft Seeding Bracket will be the same as the Frenzy/SACD Bowl Brackets (just in reverse). Thus the brackets will be set up in reverse order for both seeding and who the teams will face each week to give the worst teams the best chance to advance. HFA will apply to the higher seed as applicable in Frenzy.

Performance within the DSB will determine Draft Position. By winning the bracket a team can move up no more than 3 draft slots from their original finish. This means the original 6 seed can draft no higher than 3rd overall, the 5th seed no higher than 2nd overall, and seeds 1-4 all will have a shot at the #1 pick.

Further, the 2 teams with the worst overall records will be seeded 1 and 2 and given week 15 BYES which setup the following potential finishes for each seed:
  • 1 seed (12th best record) will draft anywhere from 1-3 (since once a team is eliminated the highest seed will always get the higher pick)
  • 2 seed (11th best record) will draft anywhere from 1-4
  • 3 seed (10th best record) will draft anywhere from 1-6
  • 4 seed (9th best record) will draft anywhere from 1-6
  • 5 seed (8th best record) will draft anywhere from 2-6 (since they can only move up 3 spots at the max)
  • 6 seed (7th best record*) will draft anywhere from 3-6 (since they can only move up 3 spots at the max)
    *6th seed will have been eliminated from playoffs due to fewer All Play wins

To further aid the chances for the bottom teams, week 15 and week 16 matchups will be seeded in reverse order so that the worst team always hosts the next worst seed. For example:

DSB Week 1 (NFL week 15)
  • BYE 1 seed (12th overall)
  • BYE 2 seed (11th overall)
  • 5 seed (8th overall) at 3 seed (10th overall)
  • 6 seed (7th overall) at 4 seed (9th overall)
Losing teams will be seeded 5th and 6th in the draft (with the higher seed getting the better pick). For example if the 3rd seed and 6th seed lost this week, the 6 seed would get the 6th pick in the draft and the 3 seed would get the 4th pick.

DSB Week 2 (NFL week 16)
  • highest remaining seed at 1 seed (12th overall)
  • lowest remaining seed at 2 seed (11th overall)
The losing teams will be seeded 3rd and 4th in the draft (with the higher seed getting the better pick).

For example in the DSB Week 1 scenario above, the 4 and 5 seeds advanced, thus the 4 seed would face the 1 seed and the 5 seed would face the 2 seed. If seeds 1 and 4 were to win, the losing 2 seed would get the 3rd pick in the draft and the losing 5 seed would get the 4th pick in the draft.

DSB Week 3 (NFL week 16)
  • lowest remaining seed at highest remaining seed
Winner gets the 1st pick, loser gets the 2nd. In this case say the 4 seed beats the 1 seed, the 4th seed would get the #1 pick in the draft while the 1 seed would get the #2 pick.

Once seeding is assigned from the DSB bracket, that seeding will apply to ALL rounds of the draft.
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Old April 20th, 2022, 12:04 PM   #2
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Default Re: REVISED Proposal - Bottom 6 Draft Seeding Bracket (DSB) for the 1st 6 draft picks

This looks good. Thanks for taking our suggestions to account when drafting this revision.
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Old April 20th, 2022, 06:14 PM   #3
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Default Re: REVISED Proposal - Bottom 6 Draft Seeding Bracket (DSB) for the 1st 6 draft picks

I would have voted yes, if it were limited to the bottom 4 teams. But looks like it is headed in the direction of passing.
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Old April 20th, 2022, 06:54 PM   #4
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Default Re: REVISED Proposal - Bottom 6 Draft Seeding Bracket (DSB) for the 1st 6 draft picks

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I would have voted yes, if it were limited to the bottom 4 teams. But looks like it is headed in the direction of passing.
It's heavily weighted towards the bottom 4, and they are the only teams that have a shot at the 1st pick. The 5 seed can't get higher than 2 and the 6 seed can't get higher than 3. This format gives everyone something to play for, regardless of their overall finish, and should encourage all teams to be more active throughout the season.
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Old April 27th, 2022, 09:58 PM   #5
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Default Re: REVISED Proposal - Bottom 6 Draft Seeding Bracket (DSB) for the 1st 6 draft picks

Still need votes from:
  • Ramsters
  • Scorpions
  • Whiskey Wolverines
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Still need votes from:
  • Ramsters
  • Scorpions
  • Whiskey Wolverines
Still need votes from these 3 teams
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Default Re: REVISED Proposal - Bottom 6 Draft Seeding Bracket (DSB) for the 1st 6 draft picks

Still need votes from:
  • Ramsters
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Default Re: REVISED Proposal - Bottom 6 Draft Seeding Bracket (DSB) for the 1st 6 draft picks

Ramsters have the swing vote on whether this proposal passes or fails.





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Ramsters votes yes, this proposal helps keep teams more engaged I feel.
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Default Re: REVISED Proposal - Bottom 6 Draft Seeding Bracket (DSB) for the 1st 6 draft picks

And with Ramsters deciding vote, we have a new post-season format for all teams this season!

All teams will compete either in the Frenzy Championship Playoff Bracket or the Draft Seeding Bracket this post-season.

Here's hoping this will work as intended and keep all teams fully engaged throughout the full season! If not, we can revisit in 2023 and adjust or tweak as necessary.
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Old December 16th, 2022, 07:23 PM   #11
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Default Re: PASSES 7-5 - REVISED Proposal - Bottom 6 Draft Seeding Bracket (DSB) for the 1st 6 draft picks

So reading this, if Seeds 5 and 6 play in final game, who gets pick 1.1?
5 seed would get pick 1.2 and 6 seed gets 1.3 regardless of the outcome.
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So reading this, if Seeds 5 and 6 play in final game, who gets pick 1.1?
5 seed would get pick 1.2 and 6 seed gets 1.3 regardless of the outcome.
I think in that case we have 2 options. The 1 seed could retain the top pick and the 2 seed would drop to 4,

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we could have 1 and 2 seeds play week 17 for the top seed, with the winner getting 1 and the loser 4.

I'd lean towards 1 and 2 playing for it week 17.

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I like 1v2 in that scenario.
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Default Re: PASSES 7-5 - REVISED Proposal - Bottom 6 Draft Seeding Bracket (DSB) for the 1st 6 draft picks

With the 3rd seeded Scorpions win over 5th seeded Killer Bees, thankfully the 5v6 scenario can't happen this year, thus we can clarify the rule to account for a 5v6 scenario with a vote on a rule adjustment in the off-season.

Like Jim, I lean towards the 1v2 week 17 option to play for 1 (loser drops to 4), but am open to other ideas to handle a 5v6 scenario in week 17.
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