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PASSES 12-0 - Rules Vote on Covid-IR and Covid-Opt-Outs
NOTE, normally a unanimous vote would be required at this time, however, I'm also proposing that the Commish elect emergency powers to allow a majority vote to apply for this unprecedented situation
I propose that we have a Covid-IR (CovIR) with the criteria below:
As for Covid-Opt-Outs, I propose that we have a Covid-Opt-Out Squad (CovOOS) with the following terms:
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Re: Rules Vote on Covid-IR and Covid-Opt-Outs
EMERGENCY POWERS.... hehehehe! |
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So it is passed???
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Re: Rules Vote on Covid-IR and Covid-Opt-Outs
We should let the other 3 teams vote to see if it's unanimous. If it's not, then Jim can make an executive decision to allow the vote to count for the 2020 season.
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July 30th, 2020, 10:19 PM | #6 |
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Re: Rules Vote on Covid-IR and Covid-Opt-Outs
We still need to hear from the Freedom, Killer Bees and Ramsters to close out this vote.
If unanimous the Covid rules will go into effect this season, if not unanimous, it will be up to Jim as Commish to make an Executive decision to overlook the rulebook and allow a majority vote to pass due to the exceptional circumstances of the pandemic.
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Re: Rules Vote on Covid-IR and Covid-Opt-Outs
And he (the commish) can determine what is an official opt out??? I'm pretty sure the guys who have officially opted out are indeed out for 2020 now. Regardless of what is in the signed wording, they are out. I'm not sure why you are fighting that when MFL has them as officially opting out now. I'll do some looking to see if any conflicting data.
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Directly from the CBA...
"While there are reportedly some provisions that would allow players to choose to sit out later in the season (for example, if a family member becomes ill), in both types, the opt-out decision is essentially irrevocable; players are stuck with their decision." So players announcing now are OFFICIALLY out for 2020!!! Voluntary guys don't get a year toward free agency or retirement, but high risk opt outs get both. I'd like to see the Commish come out with a ruling since the NFL 7 day period won't start until the lawyers work out language for signing, but opt outs are indeed HAPPENING...
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One more item...I’m not sure why the League Office or notifying the league keeps coming up? In the document it explicitly says the player only has to notify the team he is opting out. No where does it say what the team does or has to do after that. So in our little fantasy world our league should take any announcement as a declaration of opt out as a done deal!!!
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Further, until the remaining 2 teams state their vote this vote isn’t closed. You’re rushing a decision for personal reasons. A few days to iron this out isn’t and issue for any other team. From a league standpoint, we’ve moved pretty rapidly on this vote once something was finally drafted that people are agreeable to.
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Re: Rules Vote on Covid-IR and Covid-Opt-Outs
I can see Chuck's point.. If MFL list a person as opted out, isn't that what we should go by, since we do for other IR decisions?
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If MFL is listing them as opted out... I'm good with that. If they rescind their selection down the road, I'll cross that bridge. Let's see if we can get the final 2 owners to vote, though.
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Just texted those who haven't posted.
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July 31st, 2020, 03:05 PM | #14 |
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Done.
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My team is NOT in a bind and I am not taking this personal...I have 18 slots filled and am in compliance with our league rules...yes, I have 2 guys sitting out, but that bridge can be crossed later...
I will find a way to post the amendment to the collective bargaining agreement where it clearly shows no such notification to the league office - only intentions to team!!!
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The Covid rules Pass unanimously and are now in place immediately.
Jim, you can't use those Emergency Powers after all!
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Please explain the process exactly so us owners can begin the process of placing players in the covid squad...unless you still believe in the myth of the all powerful “league office” notification...we have now voted to institute this immediately so process is important...
I really wish you had NOT inserted the line about paperwork hitting the league office as it is not a “thing” per the amendment to the current CBA, as was provided....can the correct method of assertion to opting out for 2020 be adopted within this rule through executive action??? (i.e. commissioner directive)
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I'm fine with moving forward as is. I'm about to start worship this morning... I'll try to get to something later today. Or if Mike wants to put something in place that I can edit, that's fine too. For now, I'd say we should just make a OPT OUT PLAYERS thread and a COVID PLAYERS thread... and each owner can respond in the appropriate thread, per their team. Keep it simple.
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I thought we were just going with the designation on MFL? Otherwise, who is going to verify and track these down?
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Re: PASSES 12-0 - Rules Vote on Covid-IR and Covid-Opt-Outs
I say go with MFL designation too. However, when would it be effective? In other words, we don't allow IR designations until start of in-season. Do we do the same for COVID opt-outs or do we start immediately?
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Also tracking COVID IR is going to be a with the following part in second bullet point: "if your team loses a player to the NFL's Reserve-Covid list they automatically move to Frenzy/SACD's Covid-IR". Can we please do it like designating someone for IR? I don't know of a better way to track this than having the team owner post a move to COVID IR because not one person should be responsible for tracking all COVID listings from NFL/MFL. Thanks.
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As the Frenzy IR tracker, I like Swords suggestion that each team owner should make a post in the IR thread since the team owner follows his players much more succinctly than other owners do and that way the affected owners can begin replacement protocols as well. We don’t want to surprise an owner with actions, but if someone sees something on a player say something...we are in this together and a surprise will happen at some point. Hopefully it is not in pregame warmups...I can add a Covid IR section on each owner’s team in the IR tracker with a different color for date infected. That way we can better understand possible date potentially activated maybe.
Thoughts???
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Yes, this will work. I think each owner should have to post his own COVID players. Sorry, we're buying a house this week... my "extra time" is a bit limited right now.
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Since no team is in an immediate bind or having personal issues...I’m pretty sure we can give you some space to get things accomplished in your real life Opihi...make wise choices...
I had to paint 7 large paint swatches today for our color choices in CO...I’m not sure if building or buying is more courageous....lol
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Looks like we will know who all opts out by 4:00 PM ET thisThursday:
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New item to possibly consider I think...
With Stafford and Minshew having false positive tests - How are we going to handle this during regular season??? I mean, if a team would have placed Stafford in Covid Ir and started replacement bids, do we put a hard stop on active bids and put Stafford back on roster or just go with minimum stay on IR??? Stafford has been on Covid status for like 4 days now and they just announced the false positive today - I would have been much quicker to find replacement if it were regular season and at least a few bids out there... Thoughts??? Just goes to show testing has issues too as nothing is 100% accurate...
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if they go on Covid IR, and you bid on a replacement, and they come off before bidding it done, then according to the rules above, you can cut the replacement player with no penalty.
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So that covers false positives??? Ok...
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