2003 Rookie Mock Draft

Flaxwless · April 27th, 2003, 07:18 PM

Well now that the NFL Draft is complete I thought I'd get the football talk started with a rookie Mock Draft. Don't know how accurate this is as I haven't talked to anyone but this is how I could see the draft ending up as of now.

1.01 Rabid Llamas- (WR) Charlie Rogers
NEEDS: WR, RB, TE

Rogers is a no brainer pick in my opinion. Especially with the start salary of $800. Fills a significant need for the Llamas and most likely will be a superstar.

1.02 Philadelphia Freedom- (WR) Andre Johnson
NEEDS: WR, QB

An RB might be tempting here and would be a solid choice but AJ would fill a need and could be a stud in the future. Carr to Johnson will be heard a lot in the near future.

1.03 Urza's Ragers- (RB) Larry Johnson
NEEDS: RB, WR, TE

A dreaded PennState RB but hopefully LJ could erase that stigma. An RB that I see producing this year and for the future. Is in a great system. Even if Holmes is healthy (yeah, right) he's an old man.

1.04 Philadelphia Freedom- (RB) Willis McGahee
NEEDS: WR, QB

No WRs are worth picking up this early. There's a solid group of QBs to choose from but how can Philly pass up on McGahee? With Ahman contracted for a year and Lamont Jordan waiting on the DS Philly can afford to wait for McGahee. The Possibble threat of a backfield with Green, Jordan, and McGahee will be scary.

1.05 Parkwood Predators- (RB) Chris Brown
NEEDS: TE

Mike's team is stacked. No weaknesses really besides TE. However this is too high to draft one. I like Brown alot as I love brusing backs. Went to the perfect team for his style of running. Eddie is aging.

1.06 Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects- (QB) Byron Leftwich
NEEDS: QB, RB

I just love this kid. He's tough as nails and has tremendous talent. Definately fills a need. Brunell is aging so this pick could pay dividens early.

1.07 Nittany Dodgers- (RB) Justin Fargas
NEEDS: WR, QB, RB

The Dodgers could do anything with this pick. A WR is definately needed however there isn't one good enough for the first round. A QB could be a good choice with Gannon unsigned and Pennington with a 1 year deal. Edge and Martin could be solid but there are questions there. But Fargas could be an injury concern as well. I'm not sold on him even though I'm a Raider fan.

1.08 Wonder Mutts- (QB) Carson Palmer
NEEDS: RB, TE, QB

Mutts need an RB bad but the value is better at QB. Farve and Brady only have one year deals. Pickin up the #1 Pick overall is not a bad pick for the 8th.

1.09 Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects- (QB) Kyle Boller
NEEDS: QB, RB, WR

Like above would like an RB but the value isn't there. I wouldn't mind taking a second QB and hoping at leats one becomes a superstar.

1.10 Royal Hawaiian Opihi- (WR) Tyrone Calico
NEEDS: WR, RB, TE

McNair finally has a target to toss to. Opihi need a WR and at 1.10 this is a good pick I believe. Bryant Johnson would be a bad choice either.

1.11 Parkwood Predators- (TE) Jason Whitten
NEEDS: TE

MIke finally picks up a TE and a darn good one. COuld be a stud. Also have to consider Dallas Clark here too.

1.12 Jersey Toxic Waste- (RB) Onterrio Smith
NEEDS: RB

The most pressing need but the last pick in a year where rookie RBs aren't anything special. Smith has the talent and could out play Bennett.

In summary:

1.01 Rabid Llamas- (WR) Charlie Rogers
1.02 Philadelphia Freedom- (WR) Andre Johnson
1.03 Urza's Ragers- (RB) Larry Johnson
1.04 Philadelphia Freedom- (RB) Willis McGahee
1.05 Parkwood Predators- (RB) Chris Brown
1.06 Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects- (QB) Byron Leftwich
1.07 Nittany Dodgers- (RB) Justin Fargas
1.08 Wonder Mutts- (QB) Carson Palmer
1.09 Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects- (QB) Kyle Boller
1.10 Royal Hawaiian Opihi- (WR) Tyrone Calico
1.11 Parkwood Predators- (TE) Jason Whitten
1.12 Jersey Toxic Waste- (RB) Onterrio Smith

Well that's my draft. This year is difficult to gauge with no clear cut stud RBs. Even the top RBs have question marks. I think the FF Draft with be similar to the NFL draft. With three teams holding TWO 1st Rounders (Freedom, Predators, Insects). There will be lots of trading this year and some potential big movers. Don't know what to expect, except that I'm excited for the season to begin.

Peace Out.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi · April 27th, 2003, 10:51 PM

Great offering! I haven't looked at the rosters enough to comment on your mock, but it was way cool to see some actual "news" on our website! How long until the UFA period begins? Man, gotta get this FF season going!!!

Nittany Dodgers · April 28th, 2003, 09:58 AM

Mark those calendars, bidding opens this thursday!

Good work on the mock, though I can definately say that pick #7 will be different.

Preds · April 28th, 2003, 10:48 AM

After the NFL draft this past weekend I'd say predicting our draft will be just as difficult.

I have no idea which direction I'll go... so many rooks landed in what appears to be poor situations.

Not the greatest draft class.

So Brian, I should know this, but how long on the RFA period? And when are we planning the rookie draft?

Philadelphia Freedom · April 28th, 2003, 12:40 PM

Nice work on the Mock Frank!

Not that we have a huge sample to work with but to see 2 WR's go in the first two picks would be a huge difference from last year. The first WR last year went at 7 I think.

We tend to put a lot of emphasis on the RB's, but Mike's point about the lack of quality here should make for some interesting picks and possible deals.

Nittany Dodgers · April 28th, 2003, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Parkwood Predators
After the NFL draft this past weekend I'd say predicting our draft will be just as difficult.

I have no idea which direction I'll go... so many rooks landed in what appears to be poor situations.

Not the greatest draft class.

So Brian, I should know this, but how long on the RFA period? And when are we planning the rookie draft?

The adjusted schedule I had was the RFA period 5/1-5/31 and the rookie draft 6/1- whenever it ends.

As far as the draft, I would agree that this is going to be hard to predict. I have a hard enough time judging the quality of the players, and what I need on my team, much less looking at everyone else's team and guessing what they need in addition to what they are valuing the players at.

Preds · April 28th, 2003, 01:22 PM

I'll bet the RFA period wraps up before thw 31st... we should target the rookie draft for a few days after the last RFA sells

Nittany Dodgers · April 28th, 2003, 01:31 PM

You could be right, but if I remember correctly, the RFA period began last year on 3/15. The last player was matched on 4/15 (according to the info on this board). The end did drag, so we could be done earlier. I have no problem moving it up at all if we are done early, but I am guessing (not betting) we won't have much time in between.

Brain Dead Squirrel Chasers · April 28th, 2003, 01:46 PM

Great Mock Frank!

Too bad I dont have a pick in the first to look forward to. Anyway, I just wanted to clear up the RFA bidding rules since it starts soon. The rules state that

"8. Players will be considered SOLD if a bid is not increased within 48 hours of the last bid."

So this includes weekdays or weekends correct? I just wanted to be clear on this. A bid marked Friday 5pm PST will sell Sunday 5pm PST. I dont want those weekend bids slipping by me.

BTW, what do I need to do if I wanted to change my team name?

Urza's Ragers · April 28th, 2003, 01:57 PM

Good insights Frank, are you sure you're not a pyschic? I'll take Larry if he is there.

Preds · April 28th, 2003, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brain Dead Squirrel Chasers
Great Mock Frank!

Too bad I dont have a pick in the first to look forward to. Anyway, I just wanted to clear up the RFA bidding rules since it starts soon. The rules state that

"8. Players will be considered SOLD if a bid is not increased within 48 hours of the last bid."

So this includes weekdays or weekends correct? I just wanted to be clear on this. A bid marked Friday 5pm PST will sell Sunday 5pm PST. I dont want those weekend bids slipping by me.

BTW, what do I need to do if I wanted to change my team name?

Yes, 48 hours is 48 hours... so if you really want a guy check-in at least once over weekends.

As for changing your team name... why? How about keeping some tradition

! I like the BDSC acronym!

Seriously, if you just HAVE to change it... just let me know. It may take a while for me to update the league website and whatnot but it can be done. As for your board registration, e-mail me privately since I think I have to change that myself and I'll need a new password for you.

Mike

Brain Dead Squirrel Chasers · April 28th, 2003, 06:15 PM

Mike, you're right. I like the tradition I've built and changing team names at this point would detract from my previous accomplishments. Besides, I know everyone in the league gets pysched when they see the BDSC on their schedules.

They know they'll be in for a dogfight!

BDSC kickin @ss and takin names........Well kinda taking names, we just need to find that damn pen again. How about you just leave a text message next time. Thanks. Come again. Anyone got a spare 1st round pick lying around? :p

Preds · April 28th, 2003, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brain Dead Squirrel Chasers
Anyone got a spare 1st round pick lying around? :p

Hmm, I've got 2 to play with... I'm open to offers (go figure

)!

April 28th, 2003, 09:11 PM

Glad to see other scrathing their heads on who to pick in the 1st round. Thought it was just me. And of course if I go with the "no brainer" Charlie Rogers, then I'm the proud owner of three Lion WRs. Sheesh.

Open to playin trade if anyone feels like making an offer for the #1 overall. Willing to part with Collins or Maddox if you want to bundle good value in the QB slot.

If not, then, with the first pick in the 2003 draft the Rabid Llamas select.... :confused:

Flaxwless · April 28th, 2003, 10:40 PM

Well Rich if you don't like Rogers than maybe I could take him off your hands. You have Az and Germane? Who cares?

Like the others I'm open to trading anyone of my first rounders. Maybe both if the offer is good enough. I really feel my 1.6 pick is a solid pick because of the salaries and talent that would be around.

If not I'll be content on picking the next ROY! (Shockey shouldn't have won it!)

Ypsilanti Undead · April 29th, 2003, 11:56 AM

Just gotta say, this is one draft where I'm thrilled not to have to pick in the first round. Whooee, what a stinker!

Brain Dead Squirrel Chasers · April 29th, 2003, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hudson Valley Undead GM
Just gotta say, this is one draft where I'm thrilled not to have to pick in the first round. Whooee, what a stinker!

I agree with the above statement.

Philadelphia Freedom · April 30th, 2003, 02:09 PM

I figured I would stink and then benefit from having two of the first four picks. Now I just stink…

Anyhow, if anyone is interested the Freedom are always willing to talk trade and with so many holes to fill who knows.

April 30th, 2003, 06:55 PM

Not a bad group of predictions...

Too bad I'm not there.. :p

April 27th, 2003, 10:51 PM	#2
Royal Hawaiian Opihi Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Palmdale, CA Posts: 15,366	kudos! Great offering! I haven't looked at the rosters enough to comment on your mock, but it was way cool to see some actual "news" on our website! How long until the UFA period begins? Man, gotta get this FF season going!!!

April 28th, 2003, 10:48 AM	#4
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,124	After the NFL draft this past weekend I'd say predicting our draft will be just as difficult. I have no idea which direction I'll go... so many rooks landed in what appears to be poor situations. Not the greatest draft class. So Brian, I should know this, but how long on the RFA period? And when are we planning the rookie draft? __________________ 4x Frenzy Champs! 2003, 2005, 2013 & 2022* ( co-champs with Roosters)* Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

April 28th, 2003, 12:40 PM	#5
Philadelphia Freedom Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Posts: 6,098	Small Sample Nice work on the Mock Frank! Not that we have a huge sample to work with but to see 2 WR's go in the first two picks would be a huge difference from last year. The first WR last year went at 7 I think. We tend to put a lot of emphasis on the RB's, but Mike's point about the lack of quality here should make for some interesting picks and possible deals.

April 28th, 2003, 10:40 PM	#15
Flaxwless Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 6,050	Well Rich if you don't like Rogers than maybe I could take him off your hands. You have Az and Germane? Who cares? Like the others I'm open to trading anyone of my first rounders. Maybe both if the offer is good enough. I really feel my 1.6 pick is a solid pick because of the salaries and talent that would be around. If not I'll be content on picking the next ROY! (Shockey shouldn't have won it!) __________________ Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects - 1st EVER Feeding Frenzy Champion Bay Area Bloodsuckers 2008 SAC'D Champions - 2nd Worst to First in Year! 2011 SAC'D Champions - #5 seed, # 2 power rankings, #1 in the end! Last edited by Flaxwless; April 28th, 2003 at 10:42 PM.

April 30th, 2003, 02:09 PM	#18
Philadelphia Freedom Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Posts: 6,098	Rough Draft I figured I would stink and then benefit from having two of the first four picks. Now I just stink… Anyhow, if anyone is interested the Freedom are always willing to talk trade and with so many holes to fill who knows.

April 27th, 2003, 07:18 PM	#1
Flaxwless Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 6,050	2003 Rookie Mock Draft Well now that the NFL Draft is complete I thought I'd get the football talk started with a rookie Mock Draft. Don't know how accurate this is as I haven't talked to anyone but this is how I could see the draft ending up as of now. 1.01 Rabid Llamas- (WR) Charlie Rogers NEEDS: WR, RB, TE Rogers is a no brainer pick in my opinion. Especially with the start salary of $800. Fills a significant need for the Llamas and most likely will be a superstar. 1.02 Philadelphia Freedom- (WR) Andre Johnson NEEDS: WR, QB An RB might be tempting here and would be a solid choice but AJ would fill a need and could be a stud in the future. Carr to Johnson will be heard a lot in the near future. 1.03 Urza's Ragers- (RB) Larry Johnson NEEDS: RB, WR, TE A dreaded PennState RB but hopefully LJ could erase that stigma. An RB that I see producing this year and for the future. Is in a great system. Even if Holmes is healthy (yeah, right) he's an old man. 1.04 Philadelphia Freedom- (RB) Willis McGahee NEEDS: WR, QB No WRs are worth picking up this early. There's a solid group of QBs to choose from but how can Philly pass up on McGahee? With Ahman contracted for a year and Lamont Jordan waiting on the DS Philly can afford to wait for McGahee. The Possibble threat of a backfield with Green, Jordan, and McGahee will be scary. 1.05 Parkwood Predators- (RB) Chris Brown NEEDS: TE Mike's team is stacked. No weaknesses really besides TE. However this is too high to draft one. I like Brown alot as I love brusing backs. Went to the perfect team for his style of running. Eddie is aging. 1.06 Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects- (QB) Byron Leftwich NEEDS: QB, RB I just love this kid. He's tough as nails and has tremendous talent. Definately fills a need. Brunell is aging so this pick could pay dividens early. 1.07 Nittany Dodgers- (RB) Justin Fargas NEEDS: WR, QB, RB The Dodgers could do anything with this pick. A WR is definately needed however there isn't one good enough for the first round. A QB could be a good choice with Gannon unsigned and Pennington with a 1 year deal. Edge and Martin could be solid but there are questions there. But Fargas could be an injury concern as well. I'm not sold on him even though I'm a Raider fan. 1.08 Wonder Mutts- (QB) Carson Palmer NEEDS: RB, TE, QB Mutts need an RB bad but the value is better at QB. Farve and Brady only have one year deals. Pickin up the #1 Pick overall is not a bad pick for the 8th. 1.09 Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects- (QB) Kyle Boller NEEDS: QB, RB, WR Like above would like an RB but the value isn't there. I wouldn't mind taking a second QB and hoping at leats one becomes a superstar. 1.10 Royal Hawaiian Opihi- (WR) Tyrone Calico NEEDS: WR, RB, TE McNair finally has a target to toss to. Opihi need a WR and at 1.10 this is a good pick I believe. Bryant Johnson would be a bad choice either. 1.11 Parkwood Predators- (TE) Jason Whitten NEEDS: TE MIke finally picks up a TE and a darn good one. COuld be a stud. Also have to consider Dallas Clark here too. 1.12 Jersey Toxic Waste- (RB) Onterrio Smith NEEDS: RB The most pressing need but the last pick in a year where rookie RBs aren't anything special. Smith has the talent and could out play Bennett. In summary: 1.01 Rabid Llamas- (WR) Charlie Rogers 1.02 Philadelphia Freedom- (WR) Andre Johnson 1.03 Urza's Ragers- (RB) Larry Johnson 1.04 Philadelphia Freedom- (RB) Willis McGahee 1.05 Parkwood Predators- (RB) Chris Brown 1.06 Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects- (QB) Byron Leftwich 1.07 Nittany Dodgers- (RB) Justin Fargas 1.08 Wonder Mutts- (QB) Carson Palmer 1.09 Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects- (QB) Kyle Boller 1.10 Royal Hawaiian Opihi- (WR) Tyrone Calico 1.11 Parkwood Predators- (TE) Jason Whitten 1.12 Jersey Toxic Waste- (RB) Onterrio Smith Well that's my draft. This year is difficult to gauge with no clear cut stud RBs. Even the top RBs have question marks. I think the FF Draft with be similar to the NFL draft. With three teams holding TWO 1st Rounders (Freedom, Predators, Insects). There will be lots of trading this year and some potential big movers. Don't know what to expect, except that I'm excited for the season to begin. Peace Out. __________________ Bay Area Bloodsucking Insects - 1st EVER Feeding Frenzy Champion Bay Area Bloodsuckers 2008 SAC'D Champions - 2nd Worst to First in Year! 2011 SAC'D Champions - #5 seed, # 2 power rankings, #1 in the end! Last edited by Flaxwless; April 27th, 2003 at 07:23 PM.

April 28th, 2003, 09:58 AM	#3
Nittany Dodgers Feeding Frenzy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Maplewood, MN Posts: 5,204	Mark those calendars, bidding opens this thursday! Good work on the mock, though I can definately say that pick #7 will be different.

April 28th, 2003, 01:22 PM	#7
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,124	I'll bet the RFA period wraps up before thw 31st... we should target the rookie draft for a few days after the last RFA sells __________________ 4x Frenzy Champs! 2003, 2005, 2013 & 2022* ( co-champs with Roosters)* Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

April 28th, 2003, 01:31 PM	#8
Nittany Dodgers Feeding Frenzy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Maplewood, MN Posts: 5,204	You could be right, but if I remember correctly, the RFA period began last year on 3/15. The last player was matched on 4/15 (according to the info on this board). The end did drag, so we could be done earlier. I have no problem moving it up at all if we are done early, but I am guessing (not betting) we won't have much time in between.

April 28th, 2003, 01:46 PM	#9
Brain Dead Squirrel Chasers Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 946	Great Mock Frank! Too bad I dont have a pick in the first to look forward to. Anyway, I just wanted to clear up the RFA bidding rules since it starts soon. The rules state that "8. Players will be considered SOLD if a bid is not increased within 48 hours of the last bid." So this includes weekdays or weekends correct? I just wanted to be clear on this. A bid marked Friday 5pm PST will sell Sunday 5pm PST. I dont want those weekend bids slipping by me. BTW, what do I need to do if I wanted to change my team name?

April 28th, 2003, 01:57 PM	#10
Urza's Ragers Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,431	Good insights Frank, are you sure you're not a pyschic? I'll take Larry if he is there.

April 28th, 2003, 06:15 PM	#12
Brain Dead Squirrel Chasers Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 946	Mike, you're right. I like the tradition I've built and changing team names at this point would detract from my previous accomplishments. Besides, I know everyone in the league gets pysched when they see the BDSC on their schedules. They know they'll be in for a dogfight! BDSC kickin @ss and takin names........Well kinda taking names, we just need to find that damn pen again. How about you just leave a text message next time. Thanks. Come again. Anyone got a spare 1st round pick lying around? :p

April 28th, 2003, 09:11 PM	#14
RABID LLAMAS Guest Posts: n/a	Glad to see other scrathing their heads on who to pick in the 1st round. Thought it was just me. And of course if I go with the "no brainer" Charlie Rogers, then I'm the proud owner of three Lion WRs. Sheesh. Open to playin trade if anyone feels like making an offer for the #1 overall. Willing to part with Collins or Maddox if you want to bundle good value in the QB slot. If not, then, with the first pick in the 2003 draft the Rabid Llamas select.... :confused:

April 29th, 2003, 11:56 AM	#16
Ypsilanti Undead Feeding Frenzy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ypsilanti, MI Posts: 840	Just gotta say, this is one draft where I'm thrilled not to have to pick in the first round. Whooee, what a stinker!

April 30th, 2003, 06:55 PM	#19
Detroit Wyverns Guest Posts: n/a	Not a bad group of predictions... Too bad I'm not there.. :p

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