2008 RFA Commentary - Page 3

Preds · April 4th, 2008, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valley Avengers

I would call it a shock to the system. I actually got whiplash looking at that bump. He really is still hurt... a little bit... This is why we've got less action than SAC'D - lots of bids right at the market value.

I thought I was aggressive last year winning Gates for 1615. Brian's bid of 1800 stunned me. Wow.

Nittany Dodgers · April 4th, 2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Amish

Agressive bid on Gates (bandwagon bid

)!!! I like it.

Side note: - Very boring Frenzy RFA action so far! S'ACD is ripping us apart for activity.

It's time I start driving that bandwagon! Road kill no more.

Popes · April 4th, 2008, 11:23 AM

In reading through the RFA rules yesterday, I found this nugget that I bet some people didn't know:

"Once the RFA Free Agent bidding opens on April 1, a team CANNOT withdraw it's tender without being assessed the 20% cap penalty."

What this means is that you can essentially "cut" your RFA - you withdraw the tender and take a 20% penalty (the standard cut penalty). I'm not sure if that's ever been done, but I wanted to point out that it's an option if you need to clear cap space during the RFA period.

Preds · April 4th, 2008, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popes

In reading through the RFA rules yesterday, I found this nugget that I bet some people didn't know:

"Once the RFA Free Agent bidding opens on April 1, a team CANNOT withdraw it's tender without being assessed the 20% cap penalty."

What this means is that you can essentially "cut" your RFA - you withdraw the tender and take a 20% penalty (the standard cut penalty). I'm not sure if that's ever been done, but I wanted to point out that it's an option if you need to clear cap space during the RFA period.

Pretty sure that has been done. That line is basically about making the tender's guaranteed.

Valley Avengers · April 4th, 2008, 02:50 PM

Getcha popcorn ready!

I think I heard that Owens is hurt too - lot of that going around this offseason.

The Knights of Ni · April 7th, 2008, 10:46 PM

Looks like I under estimated Ol' Clark's value.

Valley Avengers · April 8th, 2008, 09:25 AM

I thought you were just trying to get him on the cheap. Definitely a first round tender TE IMO.

Valley Avengers · April 8th, 2008, 02:56 PM

Quotes from today's press conference with Terrell Owens:

"I couldn't be more excited about getting here and being apart of this franchise - I'd be a star among stars." (Addressing his pending signing with the Avengers)
“Like I always said, if I'm one of the top players in the game, pay me like I'm one of the top players in the game - the Avengers are willing to make that commitment.”
"My main focus is to win a championship, as it has always been."
"I'm not really interested in looking back to the past. I've made some mistakes. I know that. But it starts today. You can't ever move forward if you keep bringing up the past."

Come to daddy...

Popes · April 9th, 2008, 06:34 PM

Mike, don't get mad if I do another 47th hour bid on Johnson come Friday afternoon!

If Joel uses his full 72 hours on Parker, I may not have a choice. I'm not letting the #3 and #4 (IMO) RBs slip through my grasp by letting one go just because I'm on one of them (like I did with LT and Westbrook).

I gots to get me a stud RB!!!

Preds · April 9th, 2008, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popes

Mike, don't get mad if I do another 47th hour bid on Johnson come Friday afternoon!

If Joel uses his full 72 hours on Parker, I may not have a choice. I'm not letting the #3 and #4 (IMO) RBs slip through my grasp by letting one go just because I'm on one of them (like I did with LT and Westbrook).

I gots to get me a stud RB!!!

Oh I understand... it doesn't make it any easier though! 61 freakin minutes!

Valley Avengers · April 10th, 2008, 03:32 PM

I hope all these delays on decisions to match/decline have some solid strategic purpose, because its really crampin my bidding style.

BTW - 1800 for McGahee? Y'all must be crazy. The guy is a workhorse. He overcomes an amputated leg at the end of his college career - his motor never stops, he always gives 110%, he's hungry for a championship, insert additional cliche here. He plays for Brian Billi... He's got a good quarterba... He's got good wide recei... hmmmmm, maybe 1800 is right.

Disclaimer - if this is fishing, I apologize, I just couldn't stand the stagnation on our message board any longer.

Preds · April 10th, 2008, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valley Avengers

I hope all these delays on decisions to match/decline have some solid strategic purpose, because its really crampin my bidding style.

BTW - 1800 for McGahee? Y'all must be crazy. The guy is a workhorse. He overcomes an amputated leg at the end of his college career - his motor never stops, he always gives 110%, he's hungry for a championship, insert additional cliche here. He plays for Brian Billi... He's got a good quarterba... He's got good wide recei... hmmmmm, maybe 1800 is right.

Disclaimer - if this is fishing, I apologize, I just couldn't stand the stagnation on our message board any longer.

McGahee is a complete TOOL

I won't bid on him based on principle

BTW, go back to

I was just having a bad day... my apologies

Valley Avengers · April 10th, 2008, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preds

McGahee is a complete TOOL

If you mean that he is an essential component in getting the job done, then I completely agree.

Ragers - you're not fooling anybody with this McGahee bid, we all know you're still gonna match Johnson.

Urza's Ragers · April 10th, 2008, 05:46 PM

We'll just have to wait and find out don't we?

Valley Avengers · April 10th, 2008, 06:44 PM

And finally, the starting Half Back for Urza's Ragers Laaaaaaaarry Joooooooohnson. You know you love the sound of it. And not to mention poor little Kolby Smith who would get lonesome without big brother Larry.

Popes · April 11th, 2008, 12:20 PM

Note to teams who need a RB (and I know you're out there): you gonna let McGahee slip by? He's a prime RB that can actually be peeled away from his current team (and not at the $3000 price tag that others carry). Once he goes, I hope you're happy with an over-priced Rudi Johnson or a loser Thomas Jones (watch the Jets take McFadden and render him moot), because that's all that will remain, when you count in that Larry Johnson and Jamal Lewis are going to be matched.

I'm sitting here keeping RBs alive and I don't even really NEED one, I just want one. I'm surprised that teams with the need are sitting on the sidelines.

Liquid Swords · April 11th, 2008, 01:46 PM

I don't need another RB but you got your wish as I just bumped McGahee. Hopefully he falls to me and if everyone thinks like you do about Rudi, I'll have some nice bargaining power with RBs come rookie draft and UFA

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popes

Note to teams who need a RB (and I know you're out there): you gonna let McGahee slip by? He's a prime RB that can actually be peeled away from his current team (and not at the $3000 price tag that others carry). Once he goes, I hope you're happy with an over-priced Rudi Johnson or a loser Thomas Jones (watch the Jets take McFadden and render him moot), because that's all that will remain, when you count in that Larry Johnson and Jamal Lewis are going to be matched.

I'm sitting here keeping RBs alive and I don't even really NEED one, I just want one. I'm surprised that teams with the need are sitting on the sidelines.

Popes · April 11th, 2008, 01:58 PM

Nicely done. You were the last team I expected to bid!

I just bumped LJ. So now the RB dominos can start falling once Joel makes his Parker decision. C'mon Joel, there's no strategic reason to wait anymore, let's gitrdone!

Preds · April 11th, 2008, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popes

Nicely done. You were the last team I expected to bid!

I just bumped LJ. So now the RB dominos can start falling once Joel makes his Parker decision. C'mon Joel, there's no strategic reason to wait anymore, let's gitrdone!

slaps $50 down on the counter...

I'M OUT

best of luck to ya Jason... but you're screwed if Joel declines Willie

Popes · April 11th, 2008, 02:08 PM

No prob. I highly doubt I'll end up with Parker and Johnson. And if I do, I've got that contingency covered, too.

Nicely used Kramer reference

Amish · April 11th, 2008, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popes

Nicely done. You were the last team I expected to bid!

I just bumped LJ. So now the RB dominos can start falling once Joel makes his Parker decision. C'mon Joel, there's no strategic reason to wait anymore, let's gitrdone!

I was just waiting for you to bid on Johnson. So I wasn't neccessarily the one holding things up.

On a side note - 72 hours match decline is a long time.

Urza's Ragers · April 11th, 2008, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popes

No prob. I highly doubt I'll end up with Parker and Johnson. And if I do, I've got that contingency covered, too.

Nicely used Kramer reference

You want me to trade you Johnson's backup???

Preds · April 11th, 2008, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amish

On a side note - 72 hours match decline is a long time.

Nah, I think it's about right.

Preds · April 11th, 2008, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urza's Ragers

You want me to trade you Johnson's backup???

Rolling on the Floor Laughing My Ass Off

Amish · April 11th, 2008, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Preds

Nah, I think it's about right.

I think so too, but being on here everyday, it seems like forever since the bidding was closed on Parker.

Valley Avengers · April 13th, 2008, 07:32 PM

Ragers - I'm not going to make this easy on you. You can decide now or in a couple of days about Johnson, but I'm not moving on McGahee until you make that decision.

Preds · April 13th, 2008, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valley Avengers

Ragers - I'm not going to make this easy on you. You can decide now or in a couple of days about Johnson, but I'm not moving on McGahee until you make that decision.

I don't think landing or not landing McGahee will have anything to do with the decision to match or decline LJ.

There are other options out there at the skill positions.

Amish · April 14th, 2008, 12:33 PM

I'm not complaining because I had a major part to do with it, but Frenzy RFA this year is like watching paint peel!

We need to get a YAWN smiles

Popes · April 16th, 2008, 12:02 PM

FYI, stealing Burt's idea from SACD, I changed all the icons on closed RFAs to thumbs up or thumbs down, based on match or decline. I think it makes the whole forum easier to read. It should be easier to see active RFAs now, as they are the only ones with NFL team icons next to them.

Preds · April 16th, 2008, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Popes

FYI, stealing Burt's idea from SACD, I changed all the icons on closed RFAs to thumbs up or thumbs down, based on match or decline. I think it makes the whole forum easier to read. It should be easier to see active RFAs now, as they are the only ones with NFL team icons next to them.

I like Burt's system. I also think we should list the points in the RFA tracking thread for each decline like SACD is now doing.

April 4th, 2008, 11:23 AM	#63
Popes Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,052	Re: 2008 RFA Commentary In reading through the RFA rules yesterday, I found this nugget that I bet some people didn't know: "Once the RFA Free Agent bidding opens on April 1, a team CANNOT withdraw it's tender without being assessed the 20% cap penalty." What this means is that you can essentially "cut" your RFA - you withdraw the tender and take a 20% penalty (the standard cut penalty). I'm not sure if that's ever been done, but I wanted to point out that it's an option if you need to clear cap space during the RFA period.

April 4th, 2008, 02:50 PM	#65
Valley Avengers General Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 308	Owens Getcha popcorn ready! I think I heard that Owens is hurt too - lot of that going around this offseason.

April 7th, 2008, 10:46 PM	#66
The Knights of Ni Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Indy Posts: 2,815	Re: 2008 RFA Commentary Looks like I under estimated Ol' Clark's value.

April 8th, 2008, 09:25 AM	#67
Valley Avengers General Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 308	Re: 2008 RFA Commentary I thought you were just trying to get him on the cheap. Definitely a first round tender TE IMO.

April 8th, 2008, 02:56 PM	#68
Valley Avengers General Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 308	Owens Quotes from today's press conference with Terrell Owens: "I couldn't be more excited about getting here and being apart of this franchise - I'd be a star among stars." (Addressing his pending signing with the Avengers) “Like I always said, if I'm one of the top players in the game, pay me like I'm one of the top players in the game - the Avengers are willing to make that commitment.” "My main focus is to win a championship, as it has always been." "I'm not really interested in looking back to the past. I've made some mistakes. I know that. But it starts today. You can't ever move forward if you keep bringing up the past." Come to daddy...

April 9th, 2008, 06:34 PM	#69
Popes Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,052	Re: 2008 RFA Commentary Mike, don't get mad if I do another 47th hour bid on Johnson come Friday afternoon! If Joel uses his full 72 hours on Parker, I may not have a choice. I'm not letting the #3 and #4 (IMO) RBs slip through my grasp by letting one go just because I'm on one of them (like I did with LT and Westbrook). I gots to get me a stud RB!!!

April 10th, 2008, 03:32 PM	#71
Valley Avengers General Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 308	Re: 2008 RFA Commentary I hope all these delays on decisions to match/decline have some solid strategic purpose, because its really crampin my bidding style. BTW - 1800 for McGahee? Y'all must be crazy. The guy is a workhorse. He overcomes an amputated leg at the end of his college career - his motor never stops, he always gives 110%, he's hungry for a championship, insert additional cliche here. He plays for Brian Billi... He's got a good quarterba... He's got good wide recei... hmmmmm, maybe 1800 is right. Disclaimer - if this is fishing, I apologize, I just couldn't stand the stagnation on our message board any longer.

April 10th, 2008, 05:46 PM	#74
Urza's Ragers Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Jose, Ca Posts: 1,431	Re: 2008 RFA Commentary We'll just have to wait and find out don't we?

April 10th, 2008, 06:44 PM	#75
Valley Avengers General Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 308	Re: 2008 RFA Commentary And finally, the starting Half Back for Urza's Ragers Laaaaaaaarry Joooooooohnson. You know you love the sound of it. And not to mention poor little Kolby Smith who would get lonesome without big brother Larry.

April 11th, 2008, 12:20 PM	#76
Popes Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,052	Re: 2008 RFA Commentary Note to teams who need a RB (and I know you're out there): you gonna let McGahee slip by? He's a prime RB that can actually be peeled away from his current team (and not at the $3000 price tag that others carry). Once he goes, I hope you're happy with an over-priced Rudi Johnson or a loser Thomas Jones (watch the Jets take McFadden and render him moot), because that's all that will remain, when you count in that Larry Johnson and Jamal Lewis are going to be matched. I'm sitting here keeping RBs alive and I don't even really NEED one, I just want one. I'm surprised that teams with the need are sitting on the sidelines.

April 11th, 2008, 01:58 PM	#78
Popes Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,052	Re: 2008 RFA Commentary Nicely done. You were the last team I expected to bid! I just bumped LJ. So now the RB dominos can start falling once Joel makes his Parker decision. C'mon Joel, there's no strategic reason to wait anymore, let's gitrdone!

April 11th, 2008, 02:08 PM	#80
Popes Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,052	Re: 2008 RFA Commentary No prob. I highly doubt I'll end up with Parker and Johnson. And if I do, I've got that contingency covered, too. Nicely used Kramer reference

April 13th, 2008, 07:32 PM	#86
Valley Avengers General Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Apple Valley, MN Posts: 308	McGahee/Johnson Ragers - I'm not going to make this easy on you. You can decide now or in a couple of days about Johnson, but I'm not moving on McGahee until you make that decision.

April 14th, 2008, 12:33 PM	#88
Amish General Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,181	Re: 2008 RFA Commentary I'm not complaining because I had a major part to do with it, but Frenzy RFA this year is like watching paint peel! We need to get a YAWN smiles Last edited by Amish; April 14th, 2008 at 03:57 PM.

April 16th, 2008, 12:02 PM	#89
Popes Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. Paul, MN Posts: 1,052	Re: 2008 RFA Commentary FYI, stealing Burt's idea from SACD, I changed all the icons on closed RFAs to thumbs up or thumbs down, based on match or decline. I think it makes the whole forum easier to read. It should be easier to see active RFAs now, as they are the only ones with NFL team icons next to them.

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