DT PAT Conversion

Liquid Swords · December 5th, 2016, 07:47 AM

Do we not score DT PAT Conversions? I thought for sure the KC DT would get 2 points for the Eric Berry PAT INT return, but it's not reported by MFL.

Preds · December 5th, 2016, 08:38 AM

I don't think we've amended the rules to score that since the NFL made that change. It's something we may have to vote in? Have to look at the wording in the rules when I have a chance later.

It's also probably an additional setting in MFL for defensive scoring.

Bounty Hunter · December 5th, 2016, 09:57 AM

Broncos had one of those earlier this season.

Preds · December 5th, 2016, 10:23 AM

OK, so the Rules don't address conversion returns whatsoever, as they never existed until what, last year?.

MFL does have a Conversion Returns scoring category, but we'd need to determine a value. IMO it should be the same 2 points as the offensive team was attempting to score (with no credit for Fumble Recovery or Int).

All that said, since the rules don't seem to support any scoring for this play at this time, I'm of the opinion we either need a unanimous vote to make this change immediately, or vote on a rule change for 2017.

Feel free to put up a vote if you want to try for the unanimous vote.

Liquid Swords · December 5th, 2016, 12:12 PM

If it's an unaddressed scoring change, it should wait until next season IMO.

Burt the Butcher · December 5th, 2016, 12:54 PM

agree with Pat

chasmvp19 · December 5th, 2016, 02:26 PM

Uh...whatever happened in the previous Denver game should be the precedence...were the points given before or not??? Because if we change the current scoring of this event, then we have to go back and change it for an already completed contest...on a side note, it seems this should not be a voting issue as we follow the NFL scoring routinely - this was an oversight and should be corrected for next season as a matter of obviousness and form...there is no fumble or interception given as a stat during game so no points to Def for that...just my 2 cents...

Preds · December 5th, 2016, 03:06 PM

Previous game no points were given. We're discussing 2017 in the rules thread now.

December 5th, 2016, 07:47 AM	#1
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	DT PAT Conversion Do we not score DT PAT Conversions? I thought for sure the KC DT would get 2 points for the Eric Berry PAT INT return, but it's not reported by MFL.

December 5th, 2016, 08:38 AM	#2
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: DT PAT Conversion I don't think we've amended the rules to score that since the NFL made that change. It's something we may have to vote in? Have to look at the wording in the rules when I have a chance later. It's also probably an additional setting in MFL for defensive scoring. __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

December 5th, 2016, 09:57 AM	#3
Bounty Hunter Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Falcon Colorado Posts: 6,845	Re: DT PAT Conversion Broncos had one of those earlier this season.

December 5th, 2016, 10:23 AM	#4
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: DT PAT Conversion OK, so the Rules don't address conversion returns whatsoever, as they never existed until what, last year?. MFL does have a Conversion Returns scoring category, but we'd need to determine a value. IMO it should be the same 2 points as the offensive team was attempting to score (with no credit for Fumble Recovery or Int). All that said, since the rules don't seem to support any scoring for this play at this time, I'm of the opinion we either need a unanimous vote to make this change immediately, or vote on a rule change for 2017. Feel free to put up a vote if you want to try for the unanimous vote. __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

December 5th, 2016, 12:12 PM	#5
Liquid Swords Frenzy and SAC'D Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 17,307	Re: DT PAT Conversion If it's an unaddressed scoring change, it should wait until next season IMO.

December 5th, 2016, 12:54 PM	#6
Burt the Butcher Supreme FF Dominator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Falcon, Colorado Posts: 19,481	Re: DT PAT Conversion agree with Pat __________________ What's the point in calling shots His cue ain't straight in line Cue balls made of Styrofoam And no ones got the time OUT---

December 5th, 2016, 02:26 PM	#7
chasmvp19 Feeding Frenzy Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: All over...but mainly AZ and CO... Posts: 2,204	Re: DT PAT Conversion Uh...whatever happened in the previous Denver game should be the precedence...were the points given before or not??? Because if we change the current scoring of this event, then we have to go back and change it for an already completed contest...on a side note, it seems this should not be a voting issue as we follow the NFL scoring routinely - this was an oversight and should be corrected for next season as a matter of obviousness and form...there is no fumble or interception given as a stat during game so no points to Def for that...just my 2 cents... __________________ No one can hear you scream in outer space... 2017 Frenzy Bowl (Runner-Up)

December 5th, 2016, 03:06 PM	#8
Preds *****istrator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hamburg, NY Posts: 17,782	Re: DT PAT Conversion Previous game no points were given. We're discussing 2017 in the rules thread now. __________________ *4x Frenzy Champions (2003, 2005, 2013, 2022) with 9 appearances in the Frenzy Bowl (4 in the past 5 seasons*) 2022 Co-Champions with WchMeGo Roosters Email: preds1@gmail.com Cell: 716-481-8823

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