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Originally Posted by Popes
This suggests it has to be one or the other and I disagree with that. All those years we played in the PFFL, we were doing it for the money? You could have fooled me. If so, then it's the worst job I've ever had. Even when I won it, my hourly wage must have been about a nickel per hour spent working on my team. We did it for the fun and pride of building. The money was just a nice little bonus for the successful ones. Back then (pre-Internet), the winnings probably all went for Cliff Carpentier books and the cost of FF magazines, anyway!
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I'd say that as time went on, money became a smaller and smaller part of it, but in the begining, and for several years, money was a big part of it (I'll just point to all of the gambling addicts that came out of the PFFL as evidence to support my point). People were playing to win, and playing to win money.
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Originally Posted by Popes
That said, I'm in. I like the opt-in and opt-out possibilities, so you can stay out when you're in the rebuilding mode. Count me in.
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The problem I see with the way it is proposed is if you drop out for a year for "rebuilding" and get back in, you don't get back credit for what you've put it. That means, as the pot gets bigger and bigger (if it does), you can't really drop out because you miss out on a winning a large chunk of money. Thus, if the pot gets big, it really is mandatory, to use a term I know you know, because you are pot committed.
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Originally Posted by Popes
Also, through 15 years of having played in 4 pay leagues, the only time the money ever caused any friction was back when we were kids, with crap jobs, and $100 (unusual range of the first place winnings) was actually significant money to us. Since age 22, I've never seen it cause any friction whatsoever. It's hard for me to imagine that someone could put this many hours into something based on pride and then somehow get really bent out of shape over $50.
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I think the problems we had in the PFFL were amplified by the fact we were playing for money. If certain people were doing their idiotic stuff, and we were playing for free, I think we'd have been able to better deal with it in a rational way, but with the money involved, the sense of ownership came in to play.
What happens when someon who's put money in for several years decides to ignore his team for a year, citing rebuilding, but now has a moneytary investment in the league? That could get ugly. I am not going to stop anyone from doing, but I think it should not be an official league sanctioned kind of thing, and league decisions should not be made based on the side bets.