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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
You have stated numerous times in the Philly/Opihi thread that when a trade occurs, but sides must give up value. Say team A has the right to match or decline an RFA bid on player A. Team B had the high bid. Player A in and of itself holds no value to team A until the decleration is made of wether or not the high bid will be matched or declined. Once matched, the value of the Player A is just that, Player A at the bid contract. If declined, the value is the compensatory pick. If a trade is negotiated to send a draft pick so Team A declines the match, Team A's value (which I see as the compensatory pick once the decline is declared) remains with Team A, and thus Team A gives up no value, yet receives value in trade from team B. That's the way I philosophically look at it anyway.
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The sticking point here is whether or not a trade can be made between two teams (here, Team A and Team B) with team A only "giving up" their right to match, and receiving something in return from Team B. No other players are traded. This would be against the spirit of the league, IMO. However, if a team wants to include a "not match" provision as part of a multiple player deal, then why not?
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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
What's to differentiate the right to match/decline a player from the right to bid on a player? If you can negotiate your right to decline a player, can I negotiate my right to bid on a player? IE, say Team A has player A rfa'd. His 48 hour window is about to close. Say I know from previous conversations that I am confident that Team A will match at this level, can I go to Team A and ask for compensation in exchange for my not raising the high bid? Can you tell me why that would be different? You can say it is anti-competive based on the fact that the salary is affected, but I say your situation is anti-competitive because you are getting more compensation for an RFA than what the league previously determined to be a fair amount.
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This is very different in my opinion. This borders on attempted extortion! Any owner has the right to increase a RFA bid
at any point in the RFA period. It behooves the tendering owner NOT to disclose his intention prior to the point of sale. If another team tries to bully me by saying they're going to increase the bid on an RFA, then more power to ya! You run the risk of getting a player at an inflated price. This is not that big of a threat, IMO.