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Brain Dead Squirrel Chasers September 5th, 2006 02:00 PM

Cut WR Michael Robinson
 
Making room.

Philadelphia Freedom September 5th, 2006 03:45 PM

Re: Cut WR Michael Robinson
 
Can I claim M-Rob (as a RB). If so, can D. Howard be dropped and replaced by Robinson?

Nittany Dodgers September 5th, 2006 04:22 PM

Re: Cut WR Michael Robinson
 
Well, technically, he did have contract years assigned, but it was only temporary. As much as I'd like to claim robinson myself, I don't think he qualifies. I don't know what others think though.

Preds September 5th, 2006 04:28 PM

Re: Cut WR Michael Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
Well, technically, he did have contract years assigned, but it was only temporary. As much as I'd like to claim robinson myself, I don't think he qualifies. I don't know what others think though.

Actually, I wanted to claim him too, but I think Brian's right.

His contract years were invalid because Joe didn't have room to accomodate him on the TS. Thus as a draftee, he's released, never had years assigned and is a UFA.

We can all start bidding on him for the active roster though lol.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi September 5th, 2006 07:17 PM

Re: Cut WR Michael Robinson
 
Well, technically, if Joe had been on the ball and realized he didn't have space... then others would have been able to claim him during the 24 hour window by the end of the original signing period. My opinion (and I'm sure everyone's waiting with baited breath to hear it) is that he be eligible for the TS squad, but for what he would have been if he had been correctly identified when the rest of the TS cuts were made... namely, one year at his draft price. Confused yet?

Preds September 5th, 2006 08:16 PM

Re: Cut WR Michael Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi
Well, technically, if Joe had been on the ball and realized he didn't have space... then others would have been able to claim him during the 24 hour window by the end of the original signing period. My opinion (and I'm sure everyone's waiting with baited breath to hear it) is that he be eligible for the TS squad, but for what he would have been if he had been correctly identified when the rest of the TS cuts were made... namely, one year at his draft price. Confused yet?

The problem with this Jim is that Joe did not have room to place him on his TS. And draftees that are not placed on the TS/PS are not waiver eligible.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi September 5th, 2006 08:20 PM

Re: Cut WR Michael Robinson
 
I was assuming that, similar to the Andrew Walter question we had last week... if a drafted player is cut and CLAIMED off of waivers, then they would still be TS elligible. However, they'd only have a 1 year max contract, since the original drafting team would have cut them without claiming any further contract years.

I understand Walter was a 2005 draftee... who had contract years... but the principle should still apply, right?

Or am I totally off base here?

Preds September 5th, 2006 08:41 PM

Re: Cut WR Michael Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi
I was assuming that, similar to the Andrew Walter question we had last week... if a drafted player is cut and CLAIMED off of waivers, then they would still be TS elligible. However, they'd only have a 1 year max contract, since the original drafting team would have cut them without claiming any further contract years.

I understand Walter was a 2005 draftee... who had contract years... but the principle should still apply, right?

Or am I totally off base here?

You're off base. Walter was dropped off the TS.

Robinson never made it that far, and is like any other draftee that was released without being placed on the active, taxi, or practice rosters. Those players never receive a contract, even for 1 year, and thus are UFA's.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi September 5th, 2006 09:02 PM

Re: Cut WR Michael Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Preds
You're off base. Walter was dropped off the TS.

Robinson never made it that far, and is like any other draftee that was released without being placed on the active, taxi, or practice rosters. Those players never receive a contract, even for 1 year, and thus are UFA's.

Actually, Mike... I was aware of that. I just assumed (and you know what they say about assuming!) that even draftees who are released prior to receiving a contract can be claimed by another team and placed on the TS/PS squad BUT ONLY WITH A ONE YEAR CONTRACT. Guess that was an incorrect assumption.

So the only way to acquire the aforementioned TS/PS elligible players is to trade for them, eh? Okay. Glad to be straight on the issue now.

Preds September 5th, 2006 09:21 PM

Re: Cut WR Michael Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi
Actually, Mike... I was aware of that. I just assumed (and you know what they say about assuming!) that even draftees who are released prior to receiving a contract can be claimed by another team and placed on the TS/PS squad BUT ONLY WITH A ONE YEAR CONTRACT. Guess that was an incorrect assumption.

So the only way to acquire the aforementioned TS/PS elligible players is to trade for them, eh? Okay. Glad to be straight on the issue now.

Actually I had this disccussion with a couple others a few weeks ago prior to the declaration deadline (Brian and Frank?)

We agreed that a rookie that never makes the roster (active/taxi or practice) never had a contract and thus wasn't waiver eligible and would be a UFA.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi September 5th, 2006 09:37 PM

Re: Cut WR Michael Robinson
 
Okay... good to know. Thanks.


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