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Skippy the One Eyed Beagle October 19th, 2005 11:37 AM

Speed Up Firefox
 
I did this and it works great!

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forevergeek.com has a useful guide on speeding up firefox for broadband users. basically after getting to the hidden config settings you set the browser to request more data that it usually does.

1.Type “about:config” into the address bar and hit return. Scroll down and look for the following entries:

network.http.pipelining
network.http.proxy.pipelining
network.http.pipelining.maxrequests

Normally the browser will make one request to a web page at a time. When you enable pipelining it will make several at once, which really speeds up page loading.

2. Alter the entries as follows:

Set “network.http.pipelining” to “true”
Set “network.http.proxy.pipelining” to “true”
Set “network.http.pipelining.maxrequests” to some number like 30. This means it will make 30 requests at once.

3. Right-click anywhere and select New-> Integer.

Name it “nglayout.initialpaint.delay” and set its value to “0”.

This value is the amount of time the browser waits before it acts on information it receives.

4. Right-click anywhere and select New-> Boolean.

Name it "browser.turbo.enabled" and set its value to "True"

i found this over on tappersection, and it does REALLY work.
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=32806.0

Preds October 19th, 2005 12:17 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
LOL, I already blackdotted it in the FBG thread.

I did it here at work... now I wish someone could explain WTF Firefox often has display pages problems for me!

Skippy the One Eyed Beagle October 19th, 2005 12:25 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Preds
LOL, I already blackdotted it in the FBG thread.

I did it here at work... now I wish someone could explain WTF Firefox often has display pages problems for me!

http://www.predsff.com/forums/images...es/soapbox.gif

Firefox is designed to support Standard HTML.

The problem is that IE has "extended" HTML to support other features. These are outside of the standard.

Web pages are primarily developed to work with IE and take advantage of these "extentions" so these features often do not work in Firefox.

This basically forces users to use IE for some websites.

This "embrace and extend" strategy is one that Microsoft uses often. It is a predatory business tactic and is evil.

Preds October 19th, 2005 12:27 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Skippy the One Eyed Beagle
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Firefox is designed to support Standard HTML.

The problem is that IE has "extended" HTML to support other features. These are outside of the standard.

Web pages are primarily developed to work with IE and take advantage of these "extentions" so these features often do not work in Firefox.

This basically forces users to use IE for some websites.

This "embrace and extend" strategy is one that Microsoft uses often. It is a predatory business tactic and is evil.

It is also a PITA and nearly makes using Firefox not worth it... I now pick my browser based on the site I'm visiting... and that SUCKS.

I love tabbing, but have pages fail to load because of the browser just completely blows.

Nittany Dodgers October 19th, 2005 12:29 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Skippy the One Eyed Beagle
http://www.predsff.com/forums/images...es/soapbox.gif

Firefox is designed to support Standard HTML.

The problem is that IE has "extended" HTML to support other features. These are outside of the standard.

Web pages are primarily developed to work with IE and take advantage of these "extentions" so these features often do not work in Firefox.

This basically forces users to use IE for some websites.

This "embrace and extend" strategy is one that Microsoft uses often. It is a predatory business tactic and is evil.

I'm not an expert in this field, so help me out. Why doesn't they just design Firefox to support extended HTML? Or is that where the security weaknesses reside?

Skippy the One Eyed Beagle October 19th, 2005 12:38 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
I'm not an expert in this field, so help me out. Why doesn't they just design Firefox to support extended HTML? Or is that where the security weaknesses reside?

Some of IE's issues with security are a result of these features. But the real problem is that they are not all documented. Firefox has to reverse engineer to figure it out so Firefox is always a step behind because Microsoft keeps "extending".

Skippy the One Eyed Beagle October 19th, 2005 12:39 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Preds
It is also a PITA and nearly makes using Firefox not worth it... I now pick my browser based on the site I'm visiting... and that SUCKS.

I love tabbing, but have pages fail to load because of the browser just completely blows.

By the way. The next version of IE has "tabbing" and they are already claiming that they invented the idea.

Nittany Dodgers October 19th, 2005 12:42 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Skippy the One Eyed Beagle
Some of IE's issues with security are a result of these features. But the real problem is that they are not all documented. Firefox has to reverse engineer to figure it out so Firefox is always a step behind because Microsoft keeps "extending".

OK, maybe this is a stupid question, but am I to understand HTML was created my Microsoft?

Skippy the One Eyed Beagle October 19th, 2005 12:56 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
OK, maybe this is a stupid question, but am I to understand HTML was created my Microsoft?

No they didn't invent it. They took the "base" HTML and added new features/things to it. These "new" things that they add, don't always work in Firefox.

As someone who does web development I always try to create websites that follow the base standards so it works on everyone's browser.

Nittany Dodgers October 19th, 2005 01:05 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Skippy the One Eyed Beagle
No they didn't invent it. They took the "base" HTML and added new features/things to it. These "new" things that they add, don't always work in Firefox.

As someone who does web development I always try to create websites that follow the base standards so it works on everyone's browser.

OK, gotcha. I'm just starting to get into web development as a hobby, so this stuff is new to me.

Burt the Butcher October 19th, 2005 02:59 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
Uh, what's Firefox?

Liquid Swords October 19th, 2005 04:03 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
Rarely do I ever encounter problems with Firefox. The only site I know that won't work in Firefox is the Windows Update site.

Skippy, when developing do you make use of the Web Developer toolbar and Aardvark extenstions for Firefox? If not, I highly recommend them.

Dodgers, if you want to learn web development the correct way, get rid of FrontPage, Dreamweaver, etc. Instead pick up a book on CSS and XHTML, and make good use of Notepad or BBEdit. Some recommended books: Designing with Web Standards by Jeffery Zeldman, Eric Meyer on CSS by Eric Meyer, Stylin' with CSS by Charles Wyke-Smith. Also check out http://www.w3schools.com/ for some nice tutorials on XHTML, CSS and more....

Preds October 19th, 2005 04:20 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher
Uh, what's Firefox?

A browser in many ways superior to Internet Explorer, but with weaknesses at times because sites are generally coded primarily to IE.

Preds October 19th, 2005 04:24 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Liquid Swords
Rarely do I ever encounter problems with Firefox. The only site I know that won't work in Firefox is the Windows Update site.

Dude, please help me then! I have all kinds of issues with Firefox.

Primarily getting blank pages when I click on links (for example, I cannot click the last post link on the FBG boards with out getting a blank pafge in return... this also happens sometimes when I post, and get a black page back as the reply page). It's extremely frustrating, and makes me often turn back to IE (which I am not fond of).

I also often with have problems with secure pages with my bank and whatnot.

I've dabbled around the config options, but can't figure out why I have these issues aside from the fact that it is likely an incompatibility issue with Firefox and the page code itself.

Skippy the One Eyed Beagle October 19th, 2005 04:25 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher
Uh, what's Firefox?

Firefox is a webbrowser.

It is much more secure than IE (Internet Exploder) but as stated in this thread sometimes have issues with some websites. I generally use Firefox about 90% of the time, but if a site has issues, I copy the URL and open up IE and use it.

Note that I put the blame not on Firefox, but on the sites for using non standard HTML.

I use notepad for all of my development. Dreamweaver and the other tools mess with your HTML code too much. I hate losing the control that I have with notepad.

My wife and I are a team when it comes to web development. She uses dreamweaver to create the look and feel of the site, then I go though and add the dynamic content, database queries, etc. I also have to strip out all kinds of crap that dreamweaver inserts into the files.


Swords: I don't currently use the Web Developer toolbar and Aardvark extenstions for Firefox. Where would I find them?

Skippy the One Eyed Beagle October 19th, 2005 04:26 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Preds
Dude, please help me then! I have all kinds of issues with Firefox.

Primarily getting blank pages when I click on links (for example, I cannot click the last post link on the FBG boards with out getting a blank pafge in return... this also happens sometimes when I post, and get a black page back as the reply page). It's extremely frustrating, and makes me often turn back to IE (which I am not fond of).

I also often with have problems with secure pages with my bank and whatnot.

I've dabbled around the config options, but can't figure out why I have these issues aside from the fact that it is likely an incompatibility issue with Firefox and the page code itself.

What version of Firefox are you using Preds? I am running the 1.5 beta and it seems much better than older versions.

randilover October 19th, 2005 04:42 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Preds
A browser in many ways superior to Internet Explorer, but with weaknesses at times because sites are generally coded primarily to IE.

What's better about it? I am average on web literacy, so the only thing I know is IE, except I used to use Netscape Nav years ago. I'm one of those people that are surprised there is a world outside of MicroSoft.

Nittany Dodgers October 19th, 2005 04:57 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Liquid Swords
Dodgers, if you want to learn web development the correct way, get rid of FrontPage, Dreamweaver, etc. Instead pick up a book on CSS and XHTML, and make good use of Notepad or BBEdit. Some recommended books: Designing with Web Standards by Jeffery Zeldman, Eric Meyer on CSS by Eric Meyer, Stylin' with CSS by Charles Wyke-Smith. Also check out http://www.w3schools.com/ for some nice tutorials on XHTML, CSS and more....

Dude, if I had the time I surely would. However, my primary purpose for learning web development is to set up and maintain a simple website for my wife's dance studio. Minimal to no interaction. Basic information and a few graphics. I may use what I learn doing that to set up a simple website for my local league, and possible for a business I am contemplating starting in the near future (again, only for basic information, not a web based business).

If I was doing this to be a future career, I'd definitely do it the right way, but I'm no where near creative enough to professionally design website. Frontpage will fill my needs.

Preds October 19th, 2005 04:59 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Skippy the One Eyed Beagle
What version of Firefox are you using Preds? I am running the 1.5 beta and it seems much better than older versions.

Apparently I'm still on 1.02, maybe it's time to upgrade eh?

Preds October 19th, 2005 05:00 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by randilover
What's better about it? I am average on web literacy, so the only thing I know is IE, except I used to use Netscape Nav years ago. I'm one of those people that are surprised there is a world outside of MicroSoft.

Faster page laods than IE, and tabbed browsing which just ROCKS.

Liquid Swords October 19th, 2005 05:11 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
Preds,

Check your Firefox version. I'm currently on the most recent release 1.0.6. Try a fresh install of the the latest version (remove your current version, go to getfirefox.com and download the most recent version).

In Tools > Options, try these settings:
General > Connection Settings: Direct Connection to the Internet
Privacy: Clear All
Web Features: everything checked except Load Images for the originating web site only
Advanced > Software Update - check all the "periodically check" options and then Check Now button.
Advanced > Security - check SSL 2.0, SSL 3.0, TLS 1.0

Also check out this mozillaZine: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Error_loading_any_website

Liquid Swords October 19th, 2005 05:39 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Skippy the One Eyed Beagle
Swords: I don't currently use the Web Developer toolbar and Aardvark extenstions for Firefox. Where would I find them?

In Firfox select Tools > Extensions and click on the link Get More Extensions or just go to https://addons.mozilla.org/extension...cation=firefox

There are tons of Developer Tools (left navigation) available along with all kinds of other cool extensions (ForecastFox).

Here are some I recommend for development purposes (I've included the developer's site for documentation purposes):

Web Developer: http://chrispederick.com/work/webdeveloper/
ColorZilla: http://www.iosart.com/firefox/colorzilla/
Aardvark: http://www.karmatics.com/aardvark/
DOM Inspector: to get this, when you install Firefox or update to a newer version, do a Custom install and select DOM Inspector in Additional Components

randilover October 20th, 2005 02:31 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Preds
Faster page laods than IE, and tabbed browsing which just ROCKS.

What's tabbed browsing?

Liquid Swords October 20th, 2005 02:37 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by randilover
What's tabbed browsing?

Web pages are loaded in "tabs" within the same browser window, making it easy to switch back and forth among multiple web pages. With IE you have to open multiple windows to view multiple web pages. In Firefox, just press Ctrl + T to open a new tab.

Here's an example (tabs are just below Navigation toolbar):

http://www.mozilla.org/images/tabbed-browsing.gif

Preds October 20th, 2005 03:04 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Liquid Swords
Web pages are loaded in "tabs" within the same browser window, making it easy to switch back and forth among multiple web pages. With IE you have to open multiple windows to view multiple web pages. In Firefox, just press Ctrl + T to open a new tab.

Here's an example (tabs are just below Navigation toolbar):

http://www.mozilla.org/images/tabbed-browsing.gif

WTF? You have a Gift Basket fetish Pat? ;) j/k

BTW, I downloaded the 1.5 beta version, and my page load issues haven't reappeared! :woowoo

Liquid Swords October 20th, 2005 03:29 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
Maybe. Just send me one.

randilover October 20th, 2005 05:02 PM

Re: Speed Up Firefox
 
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Originally Posted by Liquid Swords
Web pages are loaded in "tabs" within the same browser window, making it easy to switch back and forth among multiple web pages. With IE you have to open multiple windows to view multiple web pages. In Firefox, just press Ctrl + T to open a new tab.

Here's an example (tabs are just below Navigation toolbar):

Nice. Condenses to one window. Never knew it existed. Have to check it out. You guys are great to share.


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