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Liquid Swords September 6th, 2005 01:27 PM

Rules Ambiguity
 
The Releasing Players (Waivers) section in the rules states:

The cap penalty applies only to the Active Roster, as there is no salary cap for the Taxi Squad.

Rookies may be cut during the off-season free-agency period with no cap hit, however, once they are declared active or DS the cap penalty rules will apply.


Good thing I had enough cap space or I would have unknowingly gone over the salary cap. It wasn't until today that I'd noticed the "however" clause in the second paragraph. I even looked this up when deciding on which rookies to add to the Taxi. I read the 1st paragraph and thought I had my answer so I dropped Matt Schaub and added Courtney Roby in his place. Had I continued to read and noticed the ambiguity, I would have brought this to everyone's attention and asked for an explanation....I would have kept Schaub and dropped Roby too. I think this is where the Derby Cars got into problems with exceeding the cap.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi September 6th, 2005 02:20 PM

Re: Rules Ambiguity
 
You know, I seem to have remembered this in the back of my mind... tucked away somewhere. And then when one of the guys got a notice that his taxi squad was over the contract year limit, I said to myself, "Hmmm? I thought we didn't have limits. Guess I was wrong."

Guess I was right... didn't we change this with the TS/PS switch?

Preds September 6th, 2005 02:28 PM

Re: Rules Ambiguity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid Swords
The Releasing Players (Waivers) section in the rules states:

The cap penalty applies only to the Active Roster, as there is no salary cap for the Taxi Squad.

Rookies may be cut during the off-season free-agency period with no cap hit, however, once they are declared active or DS the cap penalty rules will apply.


Good thing I had enough cap space or I would have unknowingly gone over the salary cap. It wasn't until today that I'd noticed the "however" clause in the second paragraph. I even looked this up when deciding on which rookies to add to the Taxi. I read the 1st paragraph and thought I had my answer so I dropped Matt Schaub and added Courtney Roby in his place. Had I continued to read and noticed the ambiguity, I would have brought this to everyone's attention and asked for an explanation....I would have kept Schaub and dropped Roby too. I think this is where the Derby Cars got into problems with exceeding the cap.

You've lost me here Pat... there is NO CAP HIT when releasing a player off the DS/TS or PS in most circumstances. With the implementation of the new Taxi Squad this year however, a player who is promoted upwards to the Active Squad, and then down at a later date to the TS, WILL be subdject to cap penalties. If a player spends 3 years on your DS/TS and you release him, and he was NEVER promoted to the Active Roster, you will not be hit with the cap penalty.

As for SBDC... I do not believe Nate is being charged for releasing rookies or DS players... if you look on the app, you'll notice I zeroed out the penalties for all DS/TS releases. I believe Nate is over the cap because he promoted JJ Arrington, but did NOT have enough cap space to accomodate him (by a meager 43 cb's).

Liquid Swords September 6th, 2005 02:29 PM

Re: Rules Ambiguity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi
You know, I seem to have remembered this in the back of my mind... tucked away somewhere. And then when one of the guys got a notice that his taxi squad was over the contract year limit, I said to myself, "Hmmm? I thought we didn't have limits. Guess I was wrong."

Guess I was right... didn't we change this with the TS/PS switch?

Don't remember. Maybe, but all new changes have been highlighted in red text. This section was not.

Preds September 6th, 2005 02:31 PM

Re: Rules Ambiguity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Royal Hawaiian Opihi
You know, I seem to have remembered this in the back of my mind... tucked away somewhere. And then when one of the guys got a notice that his taxi squad was over the contract year limit, I said to myself, "Hmmm? I thought we didn't have limits. Guess I was wrong."

Guess I was right... didn't we change this with the TS/PS switch?

The Taxi Squad still has a 20 year limit... there is no limit on the Practice Squad however.

Also, there is no maximum salary cap on either the TS or the PS.

Liquid Swords September 6th, 2005 02:34 PM

Re: Rules Ambiguity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Preds
You've lost me here Pat... there is NO CAP HIT when releasing a player off the DS/TS or PS in most circumstances. With the implementation of the new Taxi Squad this year however, a player who is promoted upwards to the Active Squad, and then down at a later date to the TS, WILL be subdject to cap penalties. If a player spends 3 years on your DS/TS and you release him, and he was NEVER promoted to the Active Roster, you will not be hit with the cap penalty.

As for SBDC... I do not believe Nate is being charged for releasing rookies or DS players... if you look on the app, you'll notice I zeroed out the penalties for all DS/TS releases. I believe Nate is over the cap because he promoted JJ Arrington, but did NOT have enough cap space to accomodate him (by a meager 43 cb's).

Ah, I see, yes indeed there is no cap hit when releasing a player off DS/TS. Didn't look at the actual cap value. Just noticed that a value was listed in the Remaining Signing Bonus section of the roster app and thought that was being applied. My bad.

Royal Hawaiian Opihi September 6th, 2005 02:36 PM

Re: Rules Ambiguity
 
Thanks, Mike... I was getting confused between the cap hit and the contract year designation. Consider me clear now! LOL


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