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PencilGeeks October 6th, 2008 11:44 AM

Kick Return TDs - PASSES - 9 Yes / 0 No
 
My question is related to the punt return TD that DeSean Jackson scored this weekend: I noticed that it was not accounted for in the scoring app. Since this is a 'player-based' league (eg. we do not play team defenses) then I would assume that like an Interception of Fumble return TD, a Punt Return TD would be credited to the player. However, after reviewing the rules it is unclear to me how kick return TDs are scored as it is never specifically mentioned:

Under 'OFFENSE' it mentions 'All other offensive TDs (ex. Fumbles.)' are 6 pts.. and then under 'DEFENSE' it mentions 'Fumble / Interception / blocked Field Goal / blocked Punt'.. but never address kick return TDs...

Burt the Butcher October 6th, 2008 11:57 AM

Re: Kick Return TDs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PencilGeeks
My question is related to the punt return TD that DeSean Jackson scored this weekend: I noticed that it was not accounted for in the scoring app. Since this is a 'player-based' league (eg. we do not play team defenses) then I would assume that like an Interception of Fumble return TD, a Punt Return TD would be credited to the player. However, after reviewing the rules it is unclear to me how kick return TDs are scored as it is never specifically mentioned:

Under 'OFFENSE' it mentions 'All other offensive TDs (ex. Fumbles.)' are 6 pts.. and then under 'DEFENSE' it mentions 'Fumble / Interception / blocked Field Goal / blocked Punt'.. but never address kick return TDs...

We don't count special teams stats..don't even think fumbles/tackles on special teams count....

Philadelphia Freedom October 6th, 2008 01:08 PM

Re: Kick Return TDs
 
For some reason I thought TD's did count for the individual player but I am probably mistaken.

PencilGeeks October 6th, 2008 01:51 PM

Re: Kick Return TDs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher
We don't count special teams stats..don't even think fumbles/tackles on special teams count....

Are you sure? I think that Special Team tackles just show up in the NFL stats along with all other tackles..

Philadelphia Freedom October 6th, 2008 01:56 PM

Re: Kick Return TDs
 
That is correct as David Akers got credit for a tackle (on a kickoff return I think) last week.

Burt the Butcher October 6th, 2008 03:08 PM

Re: Kick Return TDs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Philadelphia Freedom
That is correct as David Akers got credit for a tackle (on a kickoff return I think) last week.

OK, maybe tackles do count on special teams. We don't score points for kickoff or punt return TD's though. I verified that in the scoring setup.

PencilGeeks October 6th, 2008 04:10 PM

Re: Kick Return TDs
 
Really? Ok... but that is a shame! And it also seems like a major over-sight on such a detailed stat and scoring, player-oriented league... especially when you consider that every other type of stat is accounted for (rush attempts, passes defended, etc) and not a special teams Touchdown?! Thats just full :retard:

In any case, I'd definitely like to put that on the table as a rule change going into next year. At the very least it would another management dynamic to staffing a team and choosing WRs / RBs and even DBs.

Burt the Butcher October 6th, 2008 05:53 PM

Re: Kick Return TDs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PencilGeeks
Really? Ok... but that is a shame! And it also seems like a major over-sight on such a detailed stat and scoring, player-oriented league... especially when you consider that every other type of stat is accounted for (rush attempts, passes defended, etc) and not a special teams Touchdown?! Thats just full :retard:

In any case, I'd definitely like to put that on the table as a rule change going into next year. At the very least it would another management dynamic to staffing a team and choosing WRs / RBs and even DBs.

I have no issues with putting that on the table to be disussed and voted on next year. Would be an easy change to make.

Flaxwless October 6th, 2008 09:23 PM

Re: Kick Return TDs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher
I have no issues with putting that on the table to be disussed and voted on next year. Would be an easy change to make.

Sounds good to me as long as return yardage is not added. BLAH.

PencilGeeks October 7th, 2008 10:43 AM

Re: Kick Return TDs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flaxwless
Sounds good to me as long as return yardage is not added. BLAH.

I agree.. return yardage would really through things out of wack, but return TDs seems like it would be easy and are such a game-changing events that they should be accounted for (the Reggie Bush owner :D can chime in now)..

Flaxwless October 7th, 2008 04:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PencilGeeks
I agree.. return yardage would really through things out of wack, but return TDs seems like it would be easy and are such a game-changing events that they should be accounted for (the Reggie Bush owner :D can chime in now)..

I did.

Still agree return yardage shouldn't count but I can live with it.

Burt the Butcher April 9th, 2009 01:36 PM

Re: Kick Return TDs
 
Frank or Hans, would either one of you like to word this how you feel it should be voted on and we can put it out there for a vote?

PencilGeeks April 13th, 2009 06:46 PM

Re: Kick Return TDs
 
Maybe something like

"All other TDs not otherwise accounted for such as Punt or KO Return TDs will be credited to the player scoring the TD"

PencilGeeks April 20th, 2009 06:38 PM

Re: Kick Return TDs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PencilGeeks (Post 70685)
Maybe something like

"All other TDs not otherwise accounted for such as Punt or KO Return TDs will be credited to the player scoring the TD"

Hey Burt.. is this ok for a vote?

Burt the Butcher April 21st, 2009 09:33 AM

Re: Kick Return TDs
 
Poll added...please everyone read above description and vote

Burt the Butcher April 23rd, 2009 06:53 PM

Re: Kick Return TDs
 
Passed...hopefully I can figure out how to update the website to count this properly....


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