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Preds March 31st, 2006 07:54 AM

2006 SACD RFA Commentary
 
Let's keep it all in one thread.

Doggler April 3rd, 2006 09:18 AM

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So where are the bids ya'll? I was gone all weekend, expected some action upon my return?

Preds April 3rd, 2006 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Doggler
So where are the bids ya'll? I was gone all weekend, expected some action upon my return?

I'm kinda watching and waiting, though I only have 9 days to bid... come 4/12 I'm in Disney World with no internet for 13 days.

Doggler April 3rd, 2006 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Preds
I'm kinda watching and waiting, though I only have 9 days to bid... come 4/12 I'm in Disney World with no internet for 13 days.

Where the $#%#%$@@#@%$ are your priorities man?

Have fun, sounds like the whole fam will have a great time.

Preds April 3rd, 2006 09:54 AM

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Will someone PLEASE bid on my RFA's so I know WhereTF things stand before I go in 9 days?

RB Willis McGahee - 3200cb Tender
RB Jamal Lewis - 1050cb Tender
LB James Farrior - 200cb Tender

TIA

;)

Nittany Dodgers April 3rd, 2006 10:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Preds
Will someone PLEASE bid on my RFA's so I know WhereTF things tand before I go in 9 days?

RB Willis McGahee - 3200cb Tender
RB Jamal Lewis - 1050cb Tender
LB James Farrior - 200cb Tender

TIA

;)

Since you've been so good to me in years past, my answer is, um...no.

Preds April 3rd, 2006 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
Since you've been so good to me in years past, my answer is, um...no.

Have I EVER bid on your RFA's?

Preds April 3rd, 2006 10:26 AM

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Jake,

Why would you open Rudi at the tender level? Of course he'll be matched there. You know better than to open RFA's too low. What's the strategy here, you looking to flood the market with bids?

Skippy the One Eyed Beagle April 3rd, 2006 10:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Preds
I'm kinda watching and waiting, though I only have 9 days to bid... come 4/12 I'm in Disney World with no internet for 13 days.

Just did Disney about a month ago. It was a blast with my 2 year old.

Are you staying at one of the resorts?

Mutts April 3rd, 2006 10:54 AM

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What do you mean I know better? Seems to me that if the bid is so low that its guaranteed to be matched, it follows that the bid is also guaranteed to be bumped up by another owner. Nothing wrong with encouraging participation - especially the way things are starting here. I've never seen a RFA period start this slow in the Frenzy. I'm interested to see if the long list of other player retention rules we have on the books are going to stifle the RFA interest. That just might end up being the case.

Preds April 3rd, 2006 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Skippy the One Eyed Beagle
Just did Disney about a month ago. It was a blast with my 2 year old.

Are you staying at one of the resorts?

We're staying 2 nights at Pop Century, and 5 nights at Coronado Springs

The other days are travel days and a day or 2 at my bosses place on the Gulf near St. Pete.

We did Disney last Februaty (2005) as well, this is a more relaxed trip to Disney (water parks, and not such a rush to see eveything siunce we've seen most of it).

My next big trip is Hawaii in April 2007... 16 days including a 7 night cruise through the islands. That trip should be a blast.

Preds April 3rd, 2006 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutts
What do you mean I know better? Seems to me that if the bid is so low that its guaranteed to be matched, it follows that the bid is also guaranteed to be bumped up by another owner. Nothing wrong with encouraging participation - especially the way things are starting here. I've never seen a RFA period start this slow in the Frenzy. I'm interested to see if the long list of other player retention rules we have on the books are going to stifle the RFA interest. That just might end up being the case.

I guess I'm more in the belief that bidding closer to your target figure for a RFA is better than nickle and diming the bids, and potentially letting a guy slip through too cheap as a result. This isn't typical UFA bidding where you're trying to acquire a guy as cheap as you can, the goal here is to force these players to sell at or above market value, and hopefully pull 1 or 2 by making the match difficult on the tendering team.

Nittany Dodgers April 3rd, 2006 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Preds
Have I EVER bid on your RFA's?

You saying my RFA's aren't good enough for you?

RFA snob.

Preds April 3rd, 2006 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
You saying my RFA's aren't good enough for you?

RFA snob.

Maybe it has something to do with the level of talent on your roster ;)

Skippy the One Eyed Beagle April 3rd, 2006 11:12 AM

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i cant speak for the others, but my lack of bidding so far had to do with it opening on the weekend.

i will start bidding today as soon as i get caught up on some things.

Nittany Dodgers April 3rd, 2006 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Preds
Maybe it has something to do with the level of talent on your roster ;)

Well the jerk store called, and they'll all out of you!

Preds April 3rd, 2006 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Skippy the One Eyed Beagle
i cant speak for the others, but my lack of bidding so far had to do with it opening on the weekend.

i will start bidding today as soon as i get caught up on some things.

Bidding opened this morning actually.

Skippy the One Eyed Beagle April 3rd, 2006 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Preds
Bidding opened this morning actually.

i guess it is a good thing i didnt bid yesterday then

Preds April 3rd, 2006 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
Well the jerk store called, and they'll all out of you!

That Frenzy Bowl loss to me last year was hard on you wasn't it. It's OK Brian, you'll get another chance in 10 or 15 years.

Doggler April 3rd, 2006 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Preds
That Frenzy Bowl loss to me last year was hard on you wasn't it. It's OK Brian, you'll get another chance in 10 or 15 years.

Mike's strategy is valid - just keep starting leagues with the same guys, eventually you'll win one of them.

Skippy the One Eyed Beagle April 3rd, 2006 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Doggler
Mike's strategy is valid - just keep starting leagues with the same guys, eventually you'll win one of them.

:ROFL:

Nittany Dodgers April 3rd, 2006 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds
That Frenzy Bowl loss to me last year was hard on you wasn't it. It's OK Brian, you'll get another chance in 10 or 15 years.

It's OK Mike, you'll get back to the big game before then. I plan on being there again this year.

SAC'D, now that's a different story.

Preds April 3rd, 2006 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
It's OK Mike, you'll get back to the big game before then. I plan on being there again this year.

SAC'D, now that's a different story.

I've been there 4 years in a row... my players are getting tired, no off-season ya know, but when you have what it takes, you're there year, after year, after year...

Nittany Dodgers April 3rd, 2006 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds
I've been there 4 years in a row... my players are getting tired, no off-season ya know, but when you have what it takes, you're there year, after year, after year...

I've only missed one year (due to rebuilding from having taken over a team in a bad contract situation). I've got the third highest percentage of playoff appearances in the league, 3rd highest PPG lifetime average, 3rd most points in the post season in league history, I feel I good about my chances of making it back, and feel good about what will happen when I do.

Preds April 3rd, 2006 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
I've only missed one year (due to rebuilding from having taken over a team in a bad contract situation). I've got the third highest percentage of playoff appearances in the league, 3rd highest PPG lifetime average, 3rd most points in the post season in league history, I feel I good about my chances of making it back, and feel good about what will happen when I do.

Hmm, whose # 1 or 2 in all those categories? ;)

Skippy the One Eyed Beagle April 3rd, 2006 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds
Hmm, whose # 1 or 2 in all those categories? ;)

Since this is SACD I would have to say that I probably am 1 or 2 in all of those categories

Preds April 3rd, 2006 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Skippy the One Eyed Beagle
Since this is SACD I would have to say that I probably am 1 or 2 in all of those categories

Please stay out of our non-SACD related Frenzy discussion on the SACD boards.

TIA

;)

Skippy the One Eyed Beagle April 3rd, 2006 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds
Please stay out of our non-SACD related Frenzy discussion on the SACD boards.

TIA

;)

:moon:

Nittany Dodgers April 3rd, 2006 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds
Hmm, whose # 1 or 2 in all those categories? ;)

I don't keep track of the "who's" unless they are me.

Preds April 3rd, 2006 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
I don't keep track of the "who's" unless they are me.

Fricken grammar police... get a life ;)

Maybe I should start calling you SMOO. :D

Nittany Dodgers April 3rd, 2006 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Preds
Fricken grammar police... get a life ;)

Maybe I should start calling you SMOO. :D

Hmm, that was an unintentional grammar attack. Yet looking closer, it appeared warranted.

Wow, I haven't been to the FBG boards for months. Smoo is a name I have not heard in a long time....a long time.

Preds April 3rd, 2006 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
Hmm, that was an unintentional grammar attack. Yet looking closer, it appeared warranted.

Wow, I haven't been to the FBG boards for months. Smoo is a name I have not heard in a long time....a long time.

Aren't you lucky... he's one of the WW geeks on packmentality

Doggler April 3rd, 2006 05:46 PM

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Ahhhh, Smoo. Not sure if I miss him or not.

Nittany Dodgers April 6th, 2006 11:58 AM

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I thought the consensus was that RB prices were going to fall? So much for that theory.

Doggler April 6th, 2006 12:21 PM

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Yes, the 6-man game of musical-stud-RBs is getting expensive.

Burt the Butcher April 6th, 2006 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
I thought the consensus was that RB prices were going to fall? So much for that theory.

Preds started it....5250!! bah...

Preds April 6th, 2006 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher
Preds started it....5250!! bah...

:Shrug:Sorry

Liquid Swords April 6th, 2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
I thought the consensus was that RB prices were going to fall? So much for that theory.

No kidding.

Flaxwless April 6th, 2006 02:43 PM

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DOnt think stud RB prices will drop anytime soon

Burt the Butcher April 6th, 2006 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaxwless
DOnt think stud RB prices will drop anytime soon

I have a feeling they won't EVER drop...better get lucky with the rookie draft.....

Nittany Dodgers April 7th, 2006 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher
I have a feeling they won't EVER drop...better get lucky with the rookie draft.....

Well, then the RFA tenders are too low. Seven RFAs have been sold and the match has been determined. Of those seven, 3 1st round compensatory picks have been handed out. That's not a good way to start things with so many more RFAs to be bid on. Potentially, three more (or more, I've lost track) could be handed out. That would be yucky.

Doggler April 7th, 2006 04:12 PM

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Especially if you have pick 2.1

Skippy the One Eyed Beagle April 7th, 2006 04:13 PM

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1 year is not a trend.

I would hate to make a correction for something that is not broken.

Nittany Dodgers April 7th, 2006 04:27 PM

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True, I'm not saying we change for next year, but if next year is a repeat, then I would advocate adjusting the numbers.

Flaxwless April 7th, 2006 06:37 PM

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So I get Rudi Burt?

Burt the Butcher April 7th, 2006 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaxwless
So I get Rudi Burt?

I have 2 days to decide....but ultimatly, it's Skippy's call, not mine....:bling

Burt the Butcher April 7th, 2006 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
True, I'm not saying we change for next year, but if next year is a repeat, then I would advocate adjusting the numbers.

I have a feeling once more teams get some low priced draft picks in the fold, prices will start to get more affordable...other than LT and SA types....

Skippy the One Eyed Beagle April 8th, 2006 11:09 AM

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when do we have to decide how many years to slap on to players we got in RFA?

Nittany Dodgers April 8th, 2006 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Skippy the One Eyed Beagle
when do we have to decide how many years to slap on to players we got in RFA?

All players acquired through RFA, the rookie draft, and over the summer don't need years assigned until the start of the season UNLESS they are traded, at which point years need to be assigned prior to the trade.

Burt the Butcher April 8th, 2006 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
All players acquired through RFA, the rookie draft, and over the summer don't need years assigned until the start of the season UNLESS they are traded, at which point years need to be assigned prior to the trade.

I thought RFA's couldn't be traded until Aug 31?

Nittany Dodgers April 8th, 2006 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher
I thought RFA's couldn't be traded until Aug 31?

I was refering to rookies and UFA regarding the trades.

Burt the Butcher April 8th, 2006 03:57 PM

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But Skippy was referring to RFA's...

Nittany Dodgers April 8th, 2006 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher
But Skippy was referring to RFA's...

I meant I was refering to rookies and UFA when I mentioned "UNLESS they are traded." Obviously (or, it should be obvious) since RFAs cannot be traded, that part of my statement does not apply.

Burt the Butcher April 8th, 2006 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
I meant I was refering to rookies and UFA when I mentioned "UNLESS they are traded." Obviously (or, it should be obvious) since RFAs cannot be traded, that part of my statement does not apply.

Huh?:Popcorn

Nittany Dodgers April 8th, 2006 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher
Huh?:Popcorn

Deadline to announce contract years:

RFAs = Start of season

UFA = Start of season (unless traded, then years must be announced at time of trade)

Rookies = Start of season (unless traded, then years must be announced at time of trade).

Capiche?

Burt the Butcher April 8th, 2006 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nittany Dodgers
Deadline to announce contract years:

RFAs = Start of season

UFA = Start of season (unless traded, then years must be announced at time of trade)

Rookies = Start of season (unless traded, then years must be announced at time of trade).

Capiche?

Dude. I understood what you were saying....I ws just wondering where Skippy stood on all this....

Skippy the One Eyed Beagle April 9th, 2006 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Burt the Butcher
Dude. I understood what you were saying....I ws just wondering where Skippy stood on all this....

where i stand? i think dodgers has it right.

Philadelphia Freedom April 10th, 2006 08:08 AM

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Man, after jacking all the RFA amounts up I was hoping to avoid all these compensatory picks. I really think we ought to consider some fee for the team that gets the player (ie you sign a first round tender guy and it costs you a third round pick). I am not saying an eye for an eye but otherwise we end up with like an extra rounds worth of compensatory picks.

This is not a huge issue for third or fourth round compensatory picks but the first rounders kill the value of second round picks. I think this is something that we should consider adding for next offseason.

Preds April 10th, 2006 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Philadelphia Freedom
Man, after jacking all the RFA amounts up I was hoping to avoid all these compensatory picks. I really think we ought to consider some fee for the team that gets the player (ie you sign a first round tender guy and it costs you a third round pick). I am not saying an eye for an eye but otherwise we end up with like an extra rounds worth of compensatory picks.

This is not a huge issue for third or fourth round compensatory picks but the first rounders kill the value of second round picks. I think this is something that we should consider adding for next offseason.

My take, I think the RB tenders need to be bumped to 4000 for a 1st, the tenders for rounds 2-6 are fine.

If the RB tender was 4000 for a 1st I never woulda tendered a 1st for McGahee, though as it was I felt I was really gambling at 3200.

I'd also be in favor of eliminating a 1st round tender level for all IDP's, Ray Lewis, as good as he once was, doesn't warrant a 1st round comp IMO.

Lets just fix some of the 1st round tenders, specifiacally RB by making it an extremely difficult decision to tender a 1st, unless you've got a LT or Alexander type.

Doggler April 10th, 2006 09:28 AM

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Grrr, agreeing with Mike hurts.


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